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Why is Foghorn Leghorn Racist?
by amid
July 30, 2009 1:05 am


How did we ever manage to answer these burning animation history questions before the existence of Yahoo! Answers?

Foghorn Leghorn

07/30/09  1:07am
Christian says:

Why is Foghorn Leghorn Racist? Because his feathers are white, so clearly he must’ve been.

07/30/09  2:06am
The Nightmare is Near says:

Oh Foghorn, where art though? Yahoo Answers are really funny sometimes. Look up the question for “CN Real more like CN R___” the letters e, a, and l are replaced with a three letter word for monkey/gorilla in the blank.

07/30/09  2:27am
Lurchy says:

Any time I see silly questions and answers like this
on Yahoo answers… I think of this clip:

http://www.somethingawful.com/flash/shmorky/babby.swf

07/30/09  3:00am
Tim Drage says:

HOW IS CARTOON FORMED?
HOW FOGHORN GET RASCIT?

http://www.somethingawful.com/flash/shmorky/babby.swf

07/30/09  3:50am
Kyle says:

Here’s the direct link - although there’s no much else there. That screencap is pretty much the whole story.
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090414202353AAK6jB7

07/30/09  3:58am
Daryll says:

Keep dumbing it down America!

I weep for the future.

07/30/09  4:24am
Satorical says:

Foghorn Leghorn doesn’t hold a candle to Daffy Duck. How about the one where he becomes Elmer Fudd’s slave? But yeah, this is typical of discourse today: no context, all assertion. It’s one step from “Tell us Senator, have you stopped beating your wife?”

How about, you know, renting a few and learning for yourself, “kittykat?” You wouldn’t even have to watch a whole cartoon. The answer is in a disclaimer on every Looney Tunes DVD made for the past 10 years or so.

07/30/09  4:35am
Dave says:

It is extremely unsettling from today’s enlightened perspective to watch how the Warner Bros. cartoon studio so blatantly caricatured loud-mouth know-it-all white southerners in the character of Foghorn Leghorn.

But we have to understand that those days were filled with tension, so the rascit undertones were everywhere. (you all know what the terms “Hubie” and “Bertie” stood for , right ? ’nuff said… ) It is comforting that we do not live in days filled with tension anymore and as a society have moved beyond such things.

07/30/09  5:53am
s.w.a.c. says:

Lord knows you need to have tension when you tie down a pumpkin.

Although I did hear him make disparaging remarks about Rhode Island reds.

07/30/09  6:00am

I’m just glad we’re no longer living in a time filled with tension.

07/30/09  6:32am
Daniel J. Drazen says:

To answer THAT burning question you have to go back to the golden age of radio and Senator Claghorn, a Southern politician character on Fred Allen’s radio program. Foghorn Leghorn was an almost verbatim quote of Claghorn, right down to his catch phrases “Pay attention to me, son” and “That’s a joke, son.” The latter, according to radio legend, was originally a toss-off line the Senator used once when a joke fell flat with the studio audience.

Interestingly enough, Kenny Delmar, who was Fred Allen’s announcer and the radio voice of Sen. Claghorn, dusted off his old shtick in the 1960s and was the voice of The Hunter on “King Leonardo.”

07/30/09  7:14am
David Breneman says:

Well, he sounds just like Senator Claghorn, the notorious Dixiecrat from Allen’s Alley.

(That’s a joke, son.)

07/30/09  7:15am
cnote says:

I no he wus rascit

07/30/09  7:25am
Brad Constantine says:

Favorite Foghorn line “There’s somethin’, I say, there’s something kinda Ewwww about a boy that’s never played baseball”. Robert Mc Kimson was always playing second fiddle to Jones and Freling but those Leghorns are some of the funniest cartoons they ever made.
But there’s also a lot of truth in there….I don’t remember any racial bits, just dog abuse.

07/30/09  7:29am

Because Barack Obama hates white people?

07/30/09  7:41am

Darn those animators and their tense ways.

07/30/09  7:45am

I was also created during a time filled with tension.

07/30/09  7:45am
robert pope says:

Ah say, ah say, get some cash outta the ATM and buy a clue! That’s a joke son! Gag, that is!

07/30/09  8:05am

heehee

07/30/09  8:55am
Niki says:

Dogs are people too, you racists! Treat them with respect.

07/30/09  9:38am
Rodrigo says:

Is there really much tension when Foghorn lays it out so thick?

07/30/09  9:39am

Because he’s a southerner who says “Boy…” a lot. Jeez, how obvious can you get?

While I agree the question is basically idiotic, hopefully there were good intentions behind it. Case in point: I work in Virginia. A few years ago, I watched a young female co-worker, conversing with an African-American male co-worker, say to him (in jest), “Don’t give me any trouble, boy!” He immediately wheeled around, clearly upset, and said, “WHAT did you call me?” I had to explain to her that the term “boy” has a history as a racial slur, especially in the south. She had no idea.

07/30/09  10:30am
Anthrocoon says:

Ah say, ah say Kenny Delmar was indeed the voice of…the Hunter!…and from what I understand he was actually from Boston
(as am I), not the South. Oh yes, he was Comm. McBragg, too. Quite.

07/30/09  10:43am
Anthrocoon says:

re: “Boy”–

An episode of All in the Family showed conflicting reports about what happened when the fridge broke down. The repairman’s assistant was either an Uncle Tom or a black militant with a switchblade depending on whether you asked Archie or Mike (Edith says the knife is question was a “pen knife”) In Edith’s account, Archie calls the assistant “boy” and he turns around and tells him, “Hey I don’t like what you called me. I’m not a boy, I’m a man.” He was played by Ron Glass who would later play Det. Harris on Barney Miller.

07/30/09  11:51am

I have it on a reliable source that Foghorn Leghorn belonged to country club that was restricted. FYI.

07/30/09  12:35pm
Jip says:

Eh?
Maybe the question was asked by a non American, like me…
I still don’t understand what you guys are talking about:)
Is this offensive to southerners or what?

07/30/09  12:43pm
mick says:

all chickens are racist…. surely we all know that by now?!

07/30/09  12:58pm
bug says:

i love yahoo answers so much

so much

07/30/09  1:32pm
Tom Heres says:

I long for the day when we can all vote for who gets an electric shock through their computer for asking such idiotic questions and providing such moronic responses. Until that day, we’ll ridicule them on the Brew.

07/30/09  3:13pm
top cat james says:

It’ll be okay-Obama invited Foggy and Houn’ Dawg to the White House for a beer. Nothing like a good old-fashioned photo op to dissipate decades of barnyard rancor and dissension.

07/30/09  3:37pm
FP says:

Maybe Foghorn should have a “chicken dinner summit” with the presidink.

07/30/09  10:03pm
Chris Sobieniak says:

Too bad I was created at a time filled with mellow vibes (1977). :-)

07/31/09  12:26am
Andre says:

Clearly, somebody at Yahoo Questions has waaaaaaay too much time on their hands!

07/31/09  1:03am
vzk says:

He’s not as suited as wise latino birds like Condorito.

07/31/09  6:44am
Chris J. says:

As ever, Cartoon Brew is the depot for Elite Cartoon Snobbery.

I’m probably in the minority, here - but I find this question actually quite encouraging. This question is probably about Foghorn’s use of the word “boy,” and the person who asked it is likely some kid who has no idea that the term “boy” is an old southern standby used to put black people “in their place.”

Its actually nice to know that some areas of the country have progressed far enough that they have no inkling that calling a black person “boy” is a big no-no here in the south (I’m in Virginia.)

And look, obviously Foghorn never made any out-and-out racist comments in any of his cartoons, but I’ve met real-life Foghorn Leghorns. Old gentlemen of the “traditional south,” if you will. And believe me, in all-white company, they’ll drop the word “nigger” as casually as you or I would say “toothbrush.” And as little as twenty years ago they’d have said it in front of a black person without thinking twice.

Foghorn is a parody of those men, and lets not kid ourselves that Foghorn’s use of the word “boy” wasn’t a parody of their racist lingo. It doesn’t make Foghorn racist - but it does make this person’s question legitimate - and worthy of a straight answer and not a bunch of snide comments from the very people who would be best able to legitimately answer it.

07/31/09  9:40am
Mike Fontanelli says:

“Foghorn is a parody of those men, and lets not kid ourselves that Foghorn’s use of the word “boy” wasn’t a parody of their racist lingo. It doesn’t make Foghorn racist - but it does make this person’s question legitimate - and worthy of a straight answer and not a bunch of snide comments from the very people who would be best able to legitimately answer it.”

Ask a stupid question…

07/31/09  10:35am
shouldbeworking says:

…And why does Foghorn Leghorn beat his wife?

There is not a racist or even racial hint in Foghorn cartoons.
He is a chicken. Perhaps he believes in chickens’ superiority of hound dogs.
To assume becasue he is a southern caricature that he is racist, well, that is prejudicial.

The questioner has a great future as a tabloid journalist.

07/31/09  11:12am
Artisticulated says:

LOL Mike,
I was going to respond to Chris’s comment with an inquiry as to his professorial credentials.

I like what you said better.

07/31/09  11:58am

Hey, Amid, if you thought that Yahoo Answers site was bad, you’ll cringe at this nonsensical run-on sentence that tries to prove that Daffy Duck is a negro stereotype:

http://rzilla-online.com/?p=126

07/31/09  3:25pm
Jack G. says:

Oh lord.

Do people have to read ill intentions in everything?

Foghorn calls Henry “boy” because he’s a kid.
My neighbor used to do the same thing.

07/31/09  4:19pm
Eric says:

It’s interesting what people will label as “racist”. How many here have told a joke (or laughed at one) at some point in their life that was about someone who was polish, jewish, mexican, black, white, skinny, fat, dumb…whatever? Just because you poke fun at a minority does not mean you are racist or a hater. I spoke to some of the animation legends about this years ago and the answer was largely the same across the board, they were not racist, they were just going for a laugh. A cheap laugh maybe, but a laugh none the less. And of course as many have pointed out, making an off-color remark about a various race or person was commonplace and accepted, if not maybe even expected, during the times when these cartoons were made.

07/31/09  5:02pm
Surfer Joe says:

I grew up in the Deep South with older people calling me “boy” all the type, exactly like FH, and I thought nothing of it. Heck, I thought I was one. I had no idea I was African American until I read Chris J.’s post above just now. When my grandfather said “Come here, boy!” I should have said “Up against the wall, whitey!”

08/1/09  12:26am
Anna says:

*facepalm* how did we ever live with learning to properly spell, thats what I wanna know

08/1/09  5:45am
Steven Rowe says:

The problem we have with the question, is that it’s one of those questions that “what the…” is the really only response. At least Chris sorta kinda tried to figure it out
is it racist because he calls male children “boy”?
is it racist because he represents white southerners, who by definition are racist?
?
i know that the phrase “cotton picking hands” is now considered racist -apparently folks dont realize that cotton picking was one of the few thing integrated in the south in the 30s-50s. It’s classist, not racist.
not sure if Foghorn Leghorn ever used that phrase or not.

08/3/09  12:10pm
Chris J. says:

Yes, people in the south use the word “boy” when talking to, well, boys.

They also used to use it when talking to full-grown black men.

Foghorn, being a parody of old southern gentlemen, uses the word “boy” quite a bit. Does he use it in a racist way? No, he doesn’t. He uses it to address an actual boy.

So perhaps I went to far in declaring that Foghorn’s use of the word “boy” was definitively a parody of racist talk. It can legitimately be looked on as a simple parody of Southern talk. Mea Culpa, I retract that statement, thanks for pointing it out.

I never claimed Foghorn was racist, just that he is, in fact, a parody of old southern gentlemen, who were, by and large, racist. That connection exists whether we like it or not, and whether the creators of the Foghorn shorts intended it or not.

And therefore, in my view, the person on Ask.com was not simply a dunderhead for asking the question. Maybe, just maybe, they were really curious and wanted an answer. An answer someone from this forum would have been ideally suited to give.

Unfortunately, this is, of course, Cartoon Brew. Where Mike Fontanelli rejoices in (cleverly) calling me stupid, and “Artisticulated” implies that I’m not even worthy to be a part of this discussion unless I’ve got professional credentials. And the posts following line up to join in the dismissive parade (Steven Rowe excluded). Good on ya, guys. Way to make sure that us unworthy pleebs know our place.

08/5/09  4:37am
Looney Lover says:

It’s not it is a caricature of a comedian’s comedy bit.

Read this.. http://www.cartoonresearch.com/foghorn.html

Jerry posted it on brew long ago.

What are you guys trying to do? Give WB and CN even more reasons to not show Looney Tunes on TV ever again.

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