Academy Awards Talkback

The Oscar winners were announced tonight. The winner for BEST ANIMATED FEATURE FILM was Pixar’s WALL•E. For BEST ANIMATED SHORT, the winner was: La Maison en Petits Cubes – Kunio Kato. Jennifer Anniston and Jack Black presented the awards, and introduced an confusing montage of clips from animated features released in 2008 (which included scenes from Space Chimps and The Clone Wars, two films which their producers deemed unfit to submit for Oscar qualification – had they done so, five animated features would have been nominated instead of three).


  • vzk

    That collage of 2008 animated movies sums up exactly what Americans think about animation in general.

  • Orange

    I have to say, after the Annies, I honestly expected KFP to win. I’m not disappointed in the actual, though.

    Really loved Jack Black’s Pixar/Dreamworks joke.

    And Kunio Kato couldn’t have been more adorable.

  • http://none Zack Mays

    Way to go Pixar !!!!

  • Rodrigo

    Boo!!!! KFP was better as a whole. I would’ve also been happy with the underdog winning.

    Oktapodi also gets shafted. Bah!

  • Abu

    Yeah Wall*E! After I walked out of the theater, I said that Wall*E would win for Best Animated Picture. Thank you Academy for not making me wrong!

  • http://www.autodaddy.blogspot.com Tom

    In my heart, I wanted KFP to win, but Wall E was a fantastic film itself. We’re lucky to have seen three great nominees this year, so we all win, really.

  • JZ

    It was kind of funny to see the montage backfire like that. It revealed just how much the big animated features tend to lack originality. Watch in wonder as all your favourite films exploit the same gags and conventions, over and over!

  • Matt Sullivan

    once again animated films get portrayed as “silly quaint little films” as if they dont deserve to be included in the best picture category

  • http://www.abelboddy.com C.Edwards

    I think half of “Wall-E” should have won the Oscar. The other half not so much. But it’s not surprising.

  • http://www.rauchbrothers.com Tim Rauch

    The clip reel was a bit confusing. Space Chimps and Clone Wars being included but Waltz with Bashir and $9.99 being left out. Boo hiss. Loved Kunio Kato’s acceptance speech, though. Kudos to the winners.

  • http://ryuuseipro.deviantart.com/ John Paul Cassidy

    I thought KUNG FU PANDA would have deserved the Oscar, but I can accept WALL-E. BOLT was a good film, too. I enjoyed all three films, so I saw it as a tough competition.

    I know it’s too soon to tell, but I still think CORALINE (which I finally saw in 3D today; It’s even better the second time around) will be a shoe-in for winning next year. It’s only competition will be UP and either MONSTERS VS. ALIENS or 9.

  • allen

    what was the song used in the animation montage, loved it!

  • http://www.krisboban.com Kris

    I agree with Wall-E’s win, but wish Oktapodi would’ve also taken the piece home. Oh well, “La Maison…” was still great! KFP was nice, and glad and all it won with the Annies, but Wall-E was deserving for this one!

  • http://www.elliotelliotelliot.com Elliot Cowan

    Where was Delgo during all this??!!!!

  • http://jgchan.blogspot.com/ Jerry Chan

    I think I’m more peeved about Wall-E not winning for best sound editing/mixing than anything else

  • Steve K.

    I agree with Matt Sullivan above. Animated films deserve just as much right to be included in Best Picture of the Year. I also agree with C. Edwards that half of WALL•E was Oscar worthy. But if there was ever a film that came out of Dreamworks that deserved an Oscar, it was Kung Fu Panda. Probably the only thing they’ve ever made that I enjoyed.

  • http://yeldarb86.deviantart.com Mr. Semaj

    Nice that WALL-E won for Best Animated Feature, but couldn’t they have given an animated film a win in another category for a change? :-/

  • http://www.sportingnews.com/blog/mjf7583 Michael F.

    Congrats to Wall-E for winning the Best Animated Film award…and even though it didn’t get anything else congrats on it getting so many nominations. Good thing they hired a talented singer like John Legend to fill in for Peter Gabriel.

    Here’s hoping something other than Benjamin Button wins Best Picture. I liked it when it was called Forrest Gump.

  • Dennis Michael Chan

    Hey Allen, the song used in the montage is called Attack of the 60 ft Lesbian Octopus by the band Does It Offend You, Yeah? That was a real surprise for me.

    Anyway I thought all three best animated feature nominees were really great. But huge congratulations to Wall-E! and Ed Catmull too!

  • http://www.coffeeroll.com JPDJ

    Kung Fu Panda is a great-looking work of animation. But it’s still a safe, by-the-numbers production. WALL-E, despite it’s flaws, took some risks and succeeded with them for the most part. I’m all for envelope-pushing originality trumping technical muscle any day.

  • bob

    animated movies always have to appeal to everybody, especially to kids. thats the reason they will never win for best movie of the year. id like to see at least one non family friendly animated movie a year. animation will never be respected if we keep making kid movies. theres a lot of mature animation on tv, why not movies?

  • zekkerjah

    The oscar party is a party made by the same people who it is thrown for. So there is no way animated films will ever be accepted into normal films categories as that would make them look competitive to normal film making. Hollywood just won’t promote what isn’t its business.

    Oscars really aren’t objective awards as they take into account only the films in the US for most of the categories. Animation falls into the same bucket as the writers and international films categories.

  • Chiskop

    Congrats to Wall-E. i am a sad panda now. All that climbing and kicking ass for nothing.

    Christ, i do not like Wall-E. but i guess my panda awesomeness wasn’t enough. Damn it. Remember that? “Oh, he’s so awesome”, “People went blind from just seeing my pure awesomeness”. Crazy.
    We will remember Kungfu panda, bet your last dollar on that, recession or no recession.
    Dustin hoffman going, “How did you get up there?”
    Black, “I don’t know”
    Remember when panda opened that scroll and he found nothing written on it. remember that? remember what he figured it meant?

    Christ. i am gonna watch kungfu panda right now.
    We was robbed.

  • Lucky Jim

    Congrats to Andrew Stanton, Kunio Kato, and their respective crews for “WALL-E” and “La Maison en Petits Cubes.”

    Both awards were well deserved.

  • http://wardomatic.blogspot.com Ward

    Wow. It’s the exact same Oscar/animated feature arguments as the year before! And the year before that, and the year before that!

    I’m just glad there’s a category at all. Congrats to all who won!

  • adam van meter

    With three very good films in the running for best animated picture, it’s hard to be upset about the outcome. I loved KFP, and loved Bolt, and think both are a lot more ‘watchable’ (as in, can I stomach watching this with my son a million times) than Wall-E, but I can’t say they got completely snubbed. It was a tough competition!

    Congratulations Pixar! Good job with the win. You earned it. Congratulations Dreamworks and Disney on your nominations! Excellent work! Maybe next year, huh?

  • Oliver

    “Wow. It’s the exact same Oscar/animated feature arguments as the year before! And the year before that, and the year before that!”

    And the exact same ones we’ll be having next year!

  • OtherDan

    Yeah…That looked like a montage for Saturday morning cartoons. Can’t they use clips that portray more of the drama like they do for just about every other category? It definitely cheapened the esteem of the award. Also, I wonder what the vast difference between the academy and the annie voters is. At the Annnies KFP was a sweep. I would love to hear what someone like Brad Bird thinks about that dichotomy.

  • http://www.autodaddy.blogspot.com Tom

    So, what did everybody think of Jack Black’s Dreamworks vs Pixar joke?

  • EatRune

    I actually thought WALL-E was a LOT better than Kung-Fu Panda and I don’t understand why everyone prefers it. I think it’s better than most Dreamworks animation but it didn’t wow me or draw me in as much as WALL-E.

    I actually got really bummed out early on ’cause I wanted WALL-E to win best original screenplay SO BADLY.

    I like Jack Black’s money/Dreamworks/Pixar joke too. :D

  • Chiskop

    ” “Wow. It’s the exact same Oscar/animated feature arguments as the year before! And the year before that, and the year before that!”
    …And the exact same ones we’ll be having next year!”

    Great, ya’ll talk as if these little discussions don’t add to our appreciation of animation and story telling

    Dudes, “This is where we unravel the mysteries of harmony and focus, this is the birth place of kungfu”

  • Noonenowhere

    Careful what you wish for. If animated features were competing with live action features you could pretty much kiss goodbye to ever seeing a cartoon Oscar again. As long as the focus and the debate stays on formula based children’s films ( however good ) instead of everyone else we could be making we’ll stay in the basement with the action figures and the superhero comics.

    Sure most mainstream movies are formula fuelled as well but there’s no way the half good wonders of Wall-E or the simple fun of Panda could take on a multifaceted resonances of a film like Slumdog and win. And that was a feel good film too.

  • http://elblogderg.blogspot.com Roberto

    I liked KFP more than Wall-E, but still I’m glad Wall-E won and even more, I’m disappointed that Wall-E didn’t get the Sound Mixing or Best Song awards (the best song this year was probably the one in The Wrestler, but considering it wasn’t nominated I think Wall-E’s was the best one there).

    Waltz With Bashir is also a very good film and I’d liked to see it winning.

    I’m glad La Maison En Petit Cubes won instead of Presto, though my fave one was Oktapodi. I haven’t seen the rest of the shorts though.

    Loved Jack Black’s gag about Pixar and Dreamworks too.

    Next year it’s going to be interesting, with Up, Coraline and 9.

    Off topic, but In Bruges also deserved the Best Script award. Comedies, animation and action movies don’t have a chance, it’s pretty unfair. I think Ledger wouldn’t have won if he had been alive.

  • http://www.michaelspornanimation.com/splog/ Michael Sporn

    Note that Waltz with Bashir and $9.99, both films that competed for the nomination, were not included in the montage, though the moronic Space Chimps, which didn’t compete, had more footage than KFP.

  • Anna

    the “animation of 2008″ montage hurt my head
    Its like “seizure in a can” dizzyin thing of CGI!

  • G

    At the very least, it’s encouraging to see such diversity between the nominations. Beyond both being animated movies, I think the vast differences between WALL-E and Kung-Fu Panda in terms of approach and style make it really difficult for me to decide which deserves the win more.
    As for Bolt, I thought it was ok, but pretty forgettable.

  • http://www.mynameispj.com PJ

    I’m glad WALL-E won. I’ve already expressed in past posts how I think its superior to KFP.

    But I’ll be much happier if the day ever comes that the Oscars are obsolete and forgotten. I’m so sick of what they do to movies in general.

  • Andrew

    Hey, they included clips of Speed Racer during the action montage! I don’t think that animated montage is to blame entirely. :O

  • GameOverGirl

    As soon as I saw Space Chimps I started foaming at the mouth…

  • elan

    “But I’ll be much happier if the day ever comes that the Oscars are obsolete and forgotten. I’m so sick of what they do to movies in general.”

    Quoted for agreement. In my opinion, this was a fantastic year for animation, and all 3 films deserved accolades. I know there’s the cynics, and I get what they’re saying, but I had a GREAT time (working on one) and watching the other 2.

  • http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/marmaladearmy Doug

    My fave part of the Oscars was when the Japanese fellow who won for best animated short said, “Domo Arigato Mr Roboto”. HAHA

    When oh when will Jack Black’s star burn out?

  • http://thingsicomeupwith.blogspot.com/ Jim Gisriel

    I wish Wall e had won more. kind of disappointing. But it had the most nominations of any animated film with 6 tieing beauty and the beast. I guess that’s like a really lame prize. but yeah why didn’t it win anything in the sound categorey. jeezzzzzzz

  • Zuzu Petal

    “People went blind from just seeing my pure awesomeness”. Crazy.
    We will remember Kungfu panda, bet your last dollar on that, recession or no recession.”

    “Remember when panda opened that scroll and he found nothing written on it. remember that? remember what he figured it meant? Christ. i am gonna watch kungfu panda right now.
    We was robbed.”

    And, Dude, remember when Jack Black was at the 81st annual academy awards? He handcuffed the Panda to the podium, spit once for old time’s sake, and then made him squeal like a Lucas Ranch stormtrooper in front of Jennifer Aniston and all Hollywood! Awesome! And then, Dude, Jeffrey K had to fall back on acting experience gained from decades of lying to people’s faces to actually laugh at it– on national television! Aw, that was the BEST!
    Still, I can’t believe that Wall-E could win the Oscar! I mean, Panda won all those Annie Awards? Whutup with that? I mean, everyone in LA loves Panda! The UAW of Cartoon Land (the union) and Dreamworks *is* ASIFA now. How could this have happened? We was robbed!

  • Dr. Pepper

    Jerry Chan- I was waiting for someone to say that! I mean, while I haven’t seen Slumdog yet, and I’m sure it’s great, it seems like they just vote for the film they like best because they weren’t paying attention to sound when they saw it…

  • Chris J

    Yeah, I’m pretty easy-going when it comes to the blatent disrespect that animation gets, but in a year with both Waltz with Bashir AND $9.99, there wasn’t ONE DAMMNED 2-D MOVIE IN THAT CLUSTER-F OF A MONTAGE!!

    Thanks, Academy, for once again proving that you’re as deep as a puddle.

  • Keith Paynter

    Congrats to Andrew and Pixar. I’m glad the film won. I liken the disappointment of some to those who don’t ‘get’ 2001. It’s a film with great visual appeal, but you have to look a little deeper. They also do a lot with very little dialogue.

    Off topic – where was Don LaFonatine in the ‘In Memoriam’ section? The voice of over 5000 trailers who helped convince moviegoers see so many films. Nice of them to mention Ollie, though.

  • http://invaderpetblog.blogspot.com/ Brandon

    Random comment: Natalie Portman was the most beautiful woman at the Oscars. No other woman came close.

  • http://www.blackdotstudios.com Ian Jones-Quartey

    The real disappointment of the night was WALL-E not winning either of the sound categories. There was no excuse for that.

  • MattSullivan

    Another thing. WALTZ with Bashir was put into the best FOREIGN film category, despite the fact that it was animated, it didn’t get the goofy music or smarmy commentary. So I take it if an animated film is about a serious topic it’s not really animated? I coulda sworn I’d heard a lot of buzz about WWB being nominated for *winces* Best animated feature.

    *uggh. I hate saying those words*

  • Jorge Garrido

    I will say this: the fact that they kept cutting to Brangelina during Jennifer Aniston’s segment creeped me out.

    Creeped. Me. Out.

  • MattSullivan

    I’m sorry. I have to add more. A lot of directors treat animation like a “stepping stone” to a better job in live action. The academy obviously agrees with them because if it came down to it, WALL-E has been at the top of almost EVERY critics list. AL…MOST…EVERY critics list. So why then, did this awesome film not make it into the BEST ANIMATED FEATURE and BEST PICTURE category?

    Do they think we’re “cheating” or something? That we have the freedom to tell whatever story we want ( although lately all that is is the same talking animal story over and over )

  • uncle wayne

    To “Tom”….i, too, am alarmed that nobody (else) commented on that comment!! I, for one, was silenced by it. I didn’t find it too “funny,” actually!! Shocking is more like it!

  • http://chippyandloopus.com/ John S

    Congrats to my Pixar friends!
    Personally, I wanted KFP to win. It’s a better movie, and more fun to watch. Wall-E is more “important” though, so I can understand why it won.

  • http://www.animationinsider.net Aaron H. Bynum

    I think Slumdog Millionaire really deserved to win the Sound Mixing award. The film’s knack for seamlessly merging these competing aspects of an evolving third-world city culture is second to none. The energy and precision of the film’s music and effects, no doubt a culture a bit different to many of its viewers’ ears, is perfect and takes hold of the emotional tone of the film from start to finish. Wall*E was good, but Slumdog Millionaire was great.

  • Charles

    “Sure most mainstream movies are formula fuelled as well but there’s no way the half good wonders of Wall-E or the simple fun of Panda could take on a multifaceted resonances of a film like Slumdog and win. And that was a feel good film too.”

    This sums up my thoughts on big studio animation. You can’t complain about these animated movies not getting best film nominations when the films themselves wont leave the kiddy pool.

  • http://www.yaytime.com dave roman

    I know a lot of people who preferred Kung Fu Panda to Wall-E because they thought the second half of the film didn’t live up the genius of the first half. But I tend to feel that Wall-E was the more original film overall so even the first half winning is fine by me. And even the second half had lots of charm and beautiful scenes (like the dance number in space!) Even with it’s faults and potentially political undertones Wall-E had a lot more of a unique voice. It felt more like a singular creation, that broke away from the expectations of big studio animated films. I don’t think it should have won just because it pushed the envelope. But
    I’m glad it did. ALSO: BRILLIANT SOUNDTRACK!!!

  • Tim

    I know we all want animated films to be in the Best Picture running with their live action counterparts, but what about other categories like Best Cinematography, Best Art Direction, etc?
    I do enjoy the fact that animated films do compete for Best Screenplay, even though story board artists (non-WGA members, by the way) re-write every sequence they are given.

  • Cameron

    The second half of WALL-E was essential, and equal in every way to the first (even superior in some scenes, particularly the “Define Dancing” sequence and anything in regards to the development of the human characters). It was vital that WALL-E be delivered into a world entirely unlike his own. In that respect, the entire film was a resounding success. I applaud its well-deserved win, though I’m disappointed that it didn’t win in any of the other categories, all of which I feel it deserved.

    Kung Fu Panda was NOT the better film. It was a solid piece of work with strong design, but it brought nothing new to the table. It was safe, well-crafted, surprising, and, ultimately, forgettable and trite. Even Bolt was more interesting.

  • T

    It was cool that Ollie Johnston was included in the tribute reel but that probably happened because John Lasseter is on the Academy board. Do you recall John Lounsbery appearing in the 1976 Oscar Cavalcade of Death? I don’t, either. Lounsbery was the first of the Nine to go; Johnston was the last.

  • Jack Black

    Cameron, baby!

    I couldn’t have said it better! All the whiners should be happy that they finally- FINALLY- made a good film at DWA. What did they do? Strap Jeffrey to a dolly with a hockey mask on his face for the duration of production? HA!HA!HA!HA!

  • daniel lindquist

    “Sure most mainstream movies are formula fuelled as well but there’s no way the half good wonders of Wall-E or the simple fun of Panda could take on a multifaceted resonances of a film like Slumdog and win. And that was a feel good film too.”
    This sums up my thoughts on big studio animation. You can’t complain about these animated movies not getting best film nominations when the films themselves wont leave the kiddy pool.
    its time to give animation a new audience, the kid movies need to stop.!

  • Cameron

    But WALL-E did leave the kiddy pool. We had Waltz with Bashir as well. Many critics and awards shows hailed the film as a great work, animation or not. Rather, it seems the Academy’s community are the problem. It’s the same reason why The Dark Knight wasn’t nominated, even though people from every niche of the film community were yelling for its nomination. The Academy has a silly fixation on what’s “respectable,” which is why adaptations, historical dramas, “epics,” and the occasional underdog have always had priority over what the majority of people actually think are the best films.

    I agree that animation should grow up, but WALL-E is an example that animation really is beginning that process.

  • autisticanimator

    Isn’t it all about ego? Does any actor, writer, or director want to find out that they’ve lost their top positions in charisma, appeal, and prestige to a cartoon character and/or the ‘nerds’ who created it? Do they not think it’s a ‘shortcut’ to charm an audience with “The Illusion of Life” than it is for them to do it on their own?

  • Andrew Kieswetter

    I knew that Wall-E would take the Oscar,but I’m very happy that the equally good Kung Fu Panda and Bolt were also nominees.

  • Andrew Kieswetter

    To John Paul Cassidy,there’s also Hayao Miyazaki’s PONYO ON A CLIFF BY THE SEA to consider for next year’s Best Animated Feature Oscar as well.

  • Jorge Garrido

    Funny how most in the industry seem to prefer KFP but everyone else thinks Wall-E is the greatest film ever made.

  • http://parkablogs.com Parka

    Never heard of the animated short before but it’s always good to have variety.

    Walle totally deserves it. It’s just of a different level in storytelling.

  • http://deleted OtherDan

    I watched the whole ceremony the other night, and thought it was really funny when they were cutting to nominees and there was a looping panda clip on screen that didn’t fit with the seriousness of the moment. It kept happening and kept amusing me.

  • Al

    You are correct, Other Dan. That ‘wacky’ KFP animation kept popping up at the most inopportune moments, distracting from the prevailing dramatic tone whenever they used the sucker. The very choice of such a clip, even from KFP, reflects the ongoing childrens’ ghettoization of animated film.

  • http://noteimperfect.blogspot.com Tor

    Loved the joke, but I’m forced to wonder if Black will be asked back for the inevitable KFP sequel.

    BTW, where in the hell was “Igor” in the montage? They included “Space Chimps” and “Clone Wars”. It ain’t fair.