Cartoon Brew’s 2012 Oscar Survey Cartoon Brew’s 2012 Oscar Survey

Cartoon Brew’s 2012 Oscar Survey

With no clear frontrunners in either the Best Animated Feature or Short categories, it’s time to call upon the wisdom of the animation masses. Tell us what films you think SHOULD win the animation Oscars this year. We’ll keep the survey open for a week until everyone has had a chance to make their voice heard.


  • Lib

    The question should’ve been ‘what films do you think WILL win the Oscar’. But since it’s ‘should’…

    La Luna and Tintin.


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  • Oscar Grillo

    A Cat in Paris was the only animated feature film I watched from beginning to end in years with a high degree of pleasure. I also watched Chico and Rita….Hmmm…I am now waiting for the mo-cap version to see if it improves it. I saw Rango on a plane and I found it pretty excessive. I stayed well away from the other two… they seem to reek of buttery, greasy popcorn.

    • cbat628

      “They seem to reek of buttery, greasy popcorn.”

      I’ve never heard movies described exactly that way before. Good on you, sir!

  • cbat628

    As a side note, I just noticed how fun and diversified the titles of animated films are when compared to live-action.
    La Luna, The Fantastic Flying Books of Mr. Morris Lessmore, Rango, A Cat in Paris… the list goes on!

  • CGT

    I am not sure about the features. I doubt the academy will reward sequels and franchises, which makes Kung Fu Panda and Puss in Boots unfavourable. I think Rango is the likely choice because it is still American, directed by a familiar live-action director, has the voice of Johnny Depp and is not a sequel.

    For the animated short I think it will go to Patrick Doyon. It is possible it will go to Amanda Forbis and Wendy Tilby, but they have already won in the category before and Oscar shies away from multiple recognition. Because Cars 2 was not nominated, La Luna may have a chance at winning on name recognition only, which is what I suspect is pushing the votes high in this little Cartoon Brew poll. Dimanche is the kind of film that is traditionally rewarded in this category and it’s only competition will come from maintaining the Pixar status quo, which is shameful but expected.

    • ajnrules

      Tilby and Forbis haven’t won an Oscar yet. Their last nomination was for When the Day Breaks, and that lost to Petrov’s The Old Man and the Sea. Tilby was nominated solo for Strings 20 years ago, and that lost to ‘Manipulation’. So none of the Animated Short nominees were former winners. I think it’ll go to La Luna for the Pixar namesake, but I’m hoping it’ll be Wild Life or Morris Lessmore.

    • Sam

      “I doubt the academy will reward sequels and franchises” Toy Story 3

      • CGT

        Right. My mistake. My fact checker was out for coffee. I know they’re wonderfully respected within the Academy but I don’t know if that’s enough.

      • CGT

        There are always exceptions, Toy Story 3 being an incredible example of course. But as a general rule, even for live action film, sequels and franchises are often regarded as inferior or unworthy.

      • CGT

        I suppose what I mean to put forth is that sequels and franchises have unfavourable odds specifically because Oscar more than generally prefers new works over ones in a series.

    • Andrew Kieswetter

      I think Rango will win. I loved KFP2 and Puss In Boots and haven’t seen A Cat in Paris or Chico & Rita,but I think Rango will win,because it was so offbeat.

  • I’ve seen all the features except Chico and Rita, and I loved every minute of Rango and A Cat In Paris. But i’d have to say that the academy is most likely going to choose Rango. Which I’m fine with, it would be my choice too.

  • I would dearly love to see what would happen if A Cat in Paris won.
    For folimage it would be real recognition of years and years of top notch work , all hand drawn all in Europe. They really are the most exciting studio I can think of at the minute, though their stories can be less reliable than a carefully crafted American feature, their visuals always dazzle and retain a craft and skill that’s being rapidly lost elsewhere.
    It seems like it is actually possible this year that they could take it, and I dream that it would expand the audience for independent and original looking animation in the u.s. and around the world.
    For Gkids , the only American distributors ballsy enough to take on such highly artistic and original family fare it would be a fantastic mandate to keep growing and building their company and audience base.

  • Of all of them (that I’ve seen) I enjoyed KFP2 the most.

    I didn’t enjoy Rango at all. There were so many editing, story, and continuity errors that it was just a mess for me to try to like. Not to mention that the over-rendering on the ugly rodent characters was rather disgusting to look at most of the time. I think there’s a nice middle ground out there for textures and detail in CG animation, but Rango went well past that to the realm of creepy and ugly.

    I have a feeling Rango will win, though. Mainly because it was “different.”

    • Mike

      Can you give some of the major examples of errors that you can think of? I enjoyed Rango very much–it’s my personal favorite to win–but I’m curious to hear about the problems you saw with the story.

  • Mike

    I agree that Rango was hard to look at but KFP2 was garbage. It seemed more like a pilot episode for a television series than a feature film. It was impossible to care about anything that was happening in that story. The villain was just ridiculous. It seemed like this film was only made as a segue to a 3rd film.
    I sincerely hope that any of those films wins over kung fu panda.
    And Tin Tin is the most deserving of the award.

    • Avatar92

      I wasn’t impressed at all by Tintin. Spielberg’s weakest film to date, in my opinion. When the most boring and least interesting character is supposed to be your main hero, you know there’s something wrong. Tintin himself could have been killed off halfway through the movie, for all I cared, he had ZERO personality! Captain Haddock was by far, the most engaging character in the whole damn thing, and the guy was a drunk!

      In terms of Steven Spielberg’s action\adventure films, Tintin definitely belongs towards the bottom of the list. Doesn’t hold a candle to the Indiana Jones movies(minus Crystal Skull)or even Jurassic Park(yes, that includes The Lost World).

      • mike

        Reason’s I was impressed by Tintin: They seemed to find the very razor’s edge of the uncanny valley and rode it all the way through the film, It had the kind of clever, fun action that it seems to me that only Spielberg can deliver, and it had cold blooded murder.

        Negative things about Tintin: It felt like it gave you no time to breathe between action scenes, They didn’t spend the time to really introduce you to Tintin. I think that could the reason you felt that Tintin had no personality, because they didn’t present it to you and so it was hard to care about him.

        This does seem like an attempt to take another shot at Indiana Jones without Lucas mucking it up and I encourage that.

        ..And I think War of the Worlds and A.I. were his weakest film to date.

  • Maya

    While Rango is most likely to win, I’m rooting for A cat in Paris. It’s a lovely film, beautiful in a way Hollywood wouldn’t even dare to think of.

  • Old Man Father Time

    As I expected, Kung Fu Panda 2 and Rango are the two most popular votes and it’s almost neck-n-neck, as of now.

  • Slinky Dog

    “What animated feature do you think should win the Oscar?”

    None of the above.

    • Zib Zabzo

      Cool with your opinion. Just curious about what you would pick instead?

      • Slinky Dog

        “Winnie the Pooh”

  • I’d pick RANGO. Any feature-length animated film aimed at children that includes a cameo appearance by the late Dr. Hunter S. Thompson absolutely DESERVES an award…ANY award!

  • “Kung Fu Panda” and “Puss in Boots” were my favourites of all the animated features that were released last year (dunno if mo-cap counts as “Tintin” would be a close second to “Panda”.) A great success for Dreamworks, even though it’s more than likley that “Rango” will be the winner in this year’s race.

  • Tintin was a good film but really doesn’t belong in the animation category, no matter what the Golden Globes say.

    I haven’t seen all of these so I can’t comment about what should win, but I predict Rango will win. Not only is it an original story instead of a sequel, but it’s full of jokes and homages to the movies, and that’s what Academy voters love.

    Plus, as Scott Shaw pointed out, it has Hunter Thompson!

    • James E. Parten

      First off, motion-capture is nothing more nor less than high-tech rotoscoping. And the rotoscope has been an accepted technique in and of animation since it was developed nearly a century ago by Max Fleischer.

      Secondly, even if one does not necessarily agree with the Golden Globe going to The Adventures of Tintin, it helps to understand this. Those awards are given out by the Hollywood Foreign Press Association, which is a congregation of about eighty or so reporters, mostly representing European newspapers and news services. Of COURSE they are going to be more familiar with “Tintin” than we “ignorant” Americans. That they did give the award to “Adventures of Tintin” indicates that they accept whatever it is that Spielberg and company have done to the property.

      • george takei

        No, mo-cap is VERY different to rotoscoping. Definition of animation is FRAME BY FRAME drawing, rotoscoping falls under this. Mo-cap however is essentially the same as very sophisticated make-up. Animatiors draw image of Tintin once and then it is manipulated by actors movement. This is in no way animation and is VERY different to rotoscoping.

      • mike

        If the definition of animation is frame by frame drawing, then computer animation doesn’t count as animation. Neither does stop-motion. Animation is probably more properly defined as an creating the illusion of life. Under those terms I would say there’s no clear line to draw in the sand.

        Motion capture and rotoscope are almost identical in their technique; an actor acts and their movements are then copied and presented in an exaggerated or manipulated form.

        I’m not sure if a rotoscoped film has ever been nominated for best animated film. If it has, then the exclusion of Tintin is unfair.

      • Lib

        The word ‘manufacture’ also used to mean only ‘made by hand’, while now it refers mainly to the process of making things on a large scale using machinery.

        Definitions evolve over time, as the world changes.

      • Sarah J

        How would you define a film as “rotoscoped”? I’m just asking, because most movies will just rotoscope certain things, like humans, animals, or sometimes cars. Most other things in the film will usually be purely hand-drawn.

      • Zib Zabzo

        To me, mo-cap is closer to puppetry or people in digital costuming. Animation to me is frame by frame manipulation to give the illusion of life, whether drawn, digital, or sculpted.

      • Ergo

        For the record, every frame of footage in Tintin was touched by an animator, averaging five hours per frame. So if “frame by frame” is your definition, then Tintin is definitely animated.

      • Funkybat

        I’m no fan of mo-cap, but I saw Tintin and can’t deny that is reached a new level for that kind of “animation.” I could tell real animators worked on the entire film, because there were a few short shots where they obviously didn’t work it enough, and the “creepy mo-cap movement” feeling came through like a beacon. The fact that those moments and the “dead-eye” effects were almost absent were, to me, a great step forward. I credit the skill of the artists at Weta more than Spielberg or anyone else with this, as it was their animation abilities that made Tintin “work.”

  • D

    Having seen all the entries my money is on Rango or A Cat in Paris. I foudn that these two films were actually well done which is more than I can say for some of the competition. I also Liked Chico and Rita and I didn’t mind Kung Fu Panda 2. However I don’t really think KFP2 or Puss In Boots truly deserve to win, for me they just felt like too much of the same old same old and personally their original films (KFP, the Shrek franchise) were way better. So Rango all the way with A Cat in Paris for the upset.

  • A Painter

    i bet half the people who voted never seen La Luna lol. just did it cause its Pixar

    • ajnrules

      Or they could have attended the showing at Animation Breakdown sponsored by our very own Cartoon Brew!

  • 2011 is a very weak year of feature animation films. Puss in Boots was ‘okay, but forgettable’, Kung Fu Panda 2 was ‘okay’, even independent film Chico & Rita wasn’t really better than ‘pretty okay’.

    I hope ‘A Cat in Paris’ wins, but I hope even more that more daring and original animation films will come our way, instead of the numerous formula films and sequels we have to swallow these days…

  • Felipe Robles

    i just found out that “The Fantastic Flying Books of Mr. Morris Lessmore” it’s on Moonbot’s Vimeo page.

  • Sarah J

    Due to lack of money, the only animated films I saw in 2011 were Kung Fu Panda 2 and Rango. (well, I also saw Rio, but it’s not nominated here) While I really liked KP2, Rango was great and technically the better film, so I’m expecting that one to win.

  • Drew Perkins

    The films worthy of winning would be A Cat in Paris or Chico & Rita. Both show stunning visuals accompanied by much more original storytelling then the other three nominees. It’s a shame that Winnie the Pooh and Tintin were not recognized because I felt those two were far superior to most animated fare this year but hey, the Academy has made plenty of mistakes in the past, why change now?

  • mike schlesinger

    The real sadness is that the best animated feature of the year wasn’t even nominated: ARTHUR CHRISTMAS.

    • Ergo

      I know. I find that rather tragic. The stigma of the “holiday film” seems to have made the Academy turn a blind eye.

  • Cat

    So tired of reading comments dumping on TinTin. Personally, I really enjoyed the movie and Edgar Wright’s comedic touch fit surprisingly well with the screenplay.

    Anyone who didn’t enjoy the TinTin movie probably wouldn’t enjoy reading the original comic strips either (should they become curious), because the movie was actually pretty darn loyal to how the source material. At least with how the characters were depicted.

    As for the movie being “real” animation, I’d rather not join in that debate. So with it being absent from the list, I’ll be a Rango fanboy/girl. Although, now I’m curious how good the other nominees are after reading the positive comments.

  • CAT

    So tired of reading comments dumping on TinTin. Personally, I really enjoyed the movie and Edgar Wright’s comedic touch fit surprisingly well with the screenplay.

    Anyone who didn’t enjoy the TinTin movie probably wouldn’t enjoy reading the original comic strips either (should they become curious), because the movie was actually pretty darn loyal to how the source material. At least with how the characters were depicted.

    As for the movie being “real” animation, I won’t join in that debate. So with it being absent from the list, I’ll be a Rango fanboy/girl. Although, now I’m curious how good the other nominees are after reading the positive comments.

  • Joe

    and the Oscar for best voice actor in an animated feature goes to…….James Hong! Kung Fu Panda 2!

  • Lou

    i have to admit that the competition for the features doesn’t particularly interest me this year. I don’t think any of them stand out really. My favourite animated feature of the year by far was A Rabbi’s Cat. Its brilliant, funny and has real meaning.

    The shorts are a good bunch, i personally would like to see ‘Sunday’ win. I though it was great.

  • Megan

    I saw parts of La Luna and i did like it so far but i really like the story and the meaning of Mr Morris. For film wise I wasn’t a fan of Rango. Don’t get me wrong the animation was gorgeous and the story was a bit typical but I just didn’t think it was that great of a film that everyone(all ages) could enjoy.(just in my opinion) For TinTin the film did a very good job with the animation and graphics but I felt the story had parts that jumped and the story felt rushed than usually (I know they had shorten it and im sure the comic had a lot more details) But there was just to many skips and the story was just rushed in some parts without any explanation
    but overall the story just wasn’t my cup of tea and i do give credit to the quality and hard work they put into making the film but the story and the direction didn’t really make my top list.

    side note: i never seen the other two films that were nominated for films. Wished those films made it to the USA because I think it would have been known more and nominated more. The graphics and the stories look really interesting but its sad that you cant see those two films because they were distributed or shown in entirely in the U.S that are really worth watching and known. I just hope they are released in the U.S ASAP because they really do look like really great films.

  • Niffiwan

    Somehow almost none of January’s Cartoon Brew posts showed up in my RSS feed, so I unfortunately missed this poll. I’ll have to give my belated wholehearted endorsement to “Chico & Rita”, though. I think that if it were more widely-seen, a lot of people would change their minds.