Audiences Refuse to be Hoodwinked Again

Hoodwinked Too

How bad was the opening of Mike Disa‘s Hoodwinked Too! Hood vs. Evil? It made Simon Wells’s Mars Needs Moms look like a Hollywood blockbuster. The release, by the perpetually animation-clueless Weinsteins, debuted in sixth place with a pitiful $4.1 million (est.) from 2,505 theaters. Its per-theater average was $1,653, which at current 3-D prices equals something like two viewers per theater.

The opening of Fast Five dropped Carlos Saldanha’s Rio to second place with $14.4M (est.). The Blue Sky pic has now banked $103.6M in the United States, and more impressively, $364.3M around the globe. The other animated film in the US top ten was Illumination’s Hop which ranked 9th with $2.6M. The US total stands at $105.3M.


  • http://popyea.deviantart.com/ nick

    I’ve never seen this, or the original.
    But i sortof have an urge to, in the same way i feel the urge to watch those brazillian pixar ripoffs.

  • Chris Sobieniak

    Having no money at all, I’m glad I didn’t have to view this train wreck anyway.

  • Inkan1969

    You should note, though, that “Hoodwinked Too” didn’t cost anything near the budget of “Mars Needs Moms”.

    • Funkybat

      Also, even if it doesn’t look as polished as “Mars Needs Moms” at least (as far as I know) the Hoodwinked films were animated, not mo-capped.

  • Nicolas Orizaga

    I hate to say it though, but the quality of animation at least looks better than the original movie…I’m just going off the stills I’ve seen…not so much video-game like…

  • Mister Twister

    I am still going to watch it.

    HATERS GONNA HATE

    • showplease

      HATERS HATE WITH GOOD REASON

      I wouldn’t watch this if I was paid to.

      • http://www.salvationarmyusa.org/usn/www_usn_2.nsf Jack

        I would watch this if you paid me to.

        Time’s are hard dude.

    • http://www.cementimental.com Tim Drage

      Apologists for cynical, artistically worthless and harmful to the animation artform movies gotta apologise.

  • http://dtoons.com/conroy Failing Art Student

    It’s a safe to say that the first movie doing good was a fluke? Even by standards back then it didn’t look good, even though the film was funny.

  • anonymous

    Very happy to see Cartoon Brew call Disa out so bluntly. Perhaps it will give him the humbling he needs and the slap in the face he so deserves.

    • http://www.mike2d.blogspot.com Mike Caracappa

      Hey, I’m sorry but I resent that comment. Disa was my animation teacher at Cal Arts and was probably the best teacher I had in the whole program. I know that him directing this movie was a disappointment to some other students because he drilled passion into our heads to make great films, and then he directs a Hoodwinked film. Maybe he couldn’t follow his passion independently because of personal reasons, but the man was smart and he knew what made films great. He helped me get my own film into the Cal Arts Producers Show. I respect the man for his talent, and I don’t think he deserves a slap in the face because he had to make a decision in order to feed his family.

      • anonymous

        I’m torn…. I also had Disa as a teacher. In that respect he was incredible. However, since then, it feels like he has doubled back on his own principles. Many of these, Mr Caracappa, I know you hold very dear. BUT! I understand his need to advance his career, while supporting his family. Sometimes the needs of family and life out-way the needs of an artists self expression. So thinking about it…..
        Disa is not a hack! His passion in the classroom is as large as his personality, and if just one of us took the passion he instilled and applied it day to day, I cannot help but think he succeeded. To his point, we are artists only by title, until we truly create something great.
        (Sorry but Hoodwinked 2 need not apply)

      • anonymous

        Hey, the original poster here (second “anonymous” was not me. Thank goodness Disa was not my instructor.)…

        My comment by no means faults Disa for taking on a crappy film and feeding his family. Any self respecting man would do the same thing.

        No, My comment was more concerned with him as a professional… or an unprofessional if you will. While he may have been a great teacher to you, his ego is much too large for a team of professional animators. Hence the need for the humbling and slapping. Respect your artists and you shall be respected.

  • Oliver

    I’ll admit I found the first one endurably amusing but hey, I liked ‘Home on the Range’.

  • Da Coach

    The first time I read the post I thought it said “the opening of Mike DITKA’s Hoodwinked Too”

    Too bad I read it a second time.

  • Baron Lego

    At least we’ll get a break from the whole “Fractured Fairy Tale” genre for a little while.

    • http://kecky.blogspot.com kecky

      Until Puss in Boots. :/

  • http://www.spiteyourface.com tony mines

    Can this be a trend please? Can we all calm the flip down and go back to making maybe two good movies a year, instead of 38 terrible ones?

    • 2011 Adult

      Less jobs in feature animation?

      Maybe that will work wonders for television ideas.

  • John A

    You know, not every film deserves a theatrical release, especially when it comes to cheaply made sequels. I thought the original was clever enough, even though the character design was horrible and the animation was stiff,— it was nice that an independent filmmaker was able to get his film distributed. But expecting anything better the second time around is just taking one too many trips to the wishing well. This should have been a straight to DVD endeavor.

  • James E. Parten

    Actually, at today’s inflated 3-D ticket prices, the take of “Hoodwinked Too” comes out to around five admissions per screening. This does not suggest that folks are knocking down the doors to see it–but there’s an animated film that did far worse.

    Remember “Delgo” (2008)? I’m sure there are theater owners who’d just as soon forget it!
    In its one weekend of release, it scored–on over two thousand screens–some $511,000. That comes out to around two people per screening, and that wasn’t even at three-dee prices!
    It’s shown up on the video racks–usually just north of the 99-cent racks populated by public-domain things in envelopes.

    Still, there isn’t singing in the aisles over “Hoodwinked Too”–unless it’s blues singing performed by exhibitors who might not have also gotten “Fast Five” to pull their bacon from the fire.

  • Andrew Kieswetter

    I don’t know if I’ll go and see this. I’m looking more forward to Kung Fu Panda 2 and maybe Cars 2.

  • Toonio

    Why the Edwards didn’t direct the sequel? Nothing against Disa but C’mon!

    • The Gee

      Divine this:
      http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0249897/
      Apparently, he did a VO in the flick. And, him writing the Fraggle Rock movie sounds familiar but I don’t know much about that…

      and… I don’t care much either.

      In all due respect to the numbers the sequel pulled down: other animated features earned much less over a longer period of time. For those movies, that sucked. For this one…is it that surprising? Wasn’t the reason why the Weinsteins funded the first one, with Mo celebrity V/O and funded production to completion (outsourced from canada to asia?) because it was made cheaply? And, I’m sure that was a similar idea behind this one. So, it’ll make money back somewhere, sometime down the line.

      It didn’t really have a chance with this release date because “Hop” and “Rango” (and maybe others?) are still in theaters, including cheap matinee showings, and there’s the summer blockbusters around the corner for…uh…how do I put this? For the “ideal audience.” The easily Hoodwinkable ones.

      By the way, in addition to my reel and potentially taking a test, do I really need a headshot? Have things changed without me knowing it?

  • Dave

    Well , I guess the enormous flop of Hoodwinked Too (along with Mars Needs Moms) just proves conclusively that the movie-going public doesn’t want to see CG animated films any more, so let’s stick a fork in it , it’s done, it’s over, CG is dead.

    (oh, wait, never mind , that sort of broad brush “logic” is only applied when it comes to 2D animated films that flop … got confused there for a second) .

    • Funkybat

      Funny, but not quite on the mark, comparison-wise.

      There were several entertaining and very well-animated 2D films, from Disney and other studios, that did fair-to-middling at the box office. So far, almost any 3D animated film that isn’t a train wreck has done middling-to-great Box Office-wise.

      Don’t get me wrong, I’m a big 2D proponent, and want to see a lot more 2D and a little less 3D in theaters. But comparing films like “Delgo”, “Hoodwinked”, and the various Zemeckis mo-cap misadventures to movies like “Atlantis”, “Brother Bear” or “Road to El Dorado” is an insult to the 2D films. The 2D movies deserved to do better, but didn’t for one reason or another. The 3D flops all pretty much deserved to.

      • Dave

        Brother Bear did not flop .

      • Funkybat

        Brother Bear might not have flopped like “Home on the Range” or “Treasure Planet” but it did about the same box office as “Atlantis: The Lost Empire” and “Emperor’s New Groove.” None of those films were viewed as big commercial successes. I personally really enjoyed most of them, I even went to see Atlantis and Groove 2-3 times in theaters, but I’m just calling it how Hollywood sees ‘em. I’m also thinking of “word of mouth/cult appeal” as well. I still regularly hear people talk about “Lilo & Stitch” or even “New Groove,” but not really much about any other 2000s 2D films.

        Aside from “Stitch,” there were not really any Disney 2D films this past decade that were seen as reasons to “invest in 2D again” by the execs. Even “Stitch” didn’t really get as much credit as it deserved.

      • Dave

        Not to put too fine a point on it , but measure the worldwide theatrical box-office gross against the cost of the production :

        Atlantis – Worldwide theatrical box office gross = $186,053,725 against a production budget of $120 million

        Emperors New Groove – Worldwide theatrical box office gross =$169,327,687  against a production budget of $100 million

        Brother Bear – Worldwide theatrical box office gross = $250,397,798 against a production budget of $85 million .

  • Marc Baker

    Hollywood exec: ‘A CGI animated film flopping at the box office? Naaahhh, that would never happen.’

    Hate to burst your beach ball, Mr. Hollywood Exec, but CGI isn’t as ‘bullet proof’ as you think, If a pencil animated film flops, it’s because it was poorly made. If A CGI film flops, it’s also because it’s poorly made. Same thing goes with live action.

  • Steven M.

    The people of America have spoken, no more Hoodwinked, please.

    • Funkybat

      Not sure if the Weinstiens will get the message. It took 3 or 4 BO failures of the Imagemovers mo-cap films for the higher-ups to realize that “performance capture” was not working with audiences.

  • http://yeldarb86.deviantart.com Mr. Semaj

    This is what happens when pointless sequels are crammed down people’s throats.

    Lesson to Hollywood: Learn to quit while you’re ahead.

  • The Gee

    This wasn’t “crammed down people’s throats.” No movie that is released is like that…
    everyone chooses to pay and see something or they don’t choose to see it at all.

    What is shows is that when it comes to CG not all that glitters is gold.

    It most likely will make some money but it won’t make a lot of that domestically in theaters or may not make it up overseas either.

    The consequence of animation being “hot” right now is that clunkers, either in terms of quality or Box Office performance, are going to be released into theaters and then released in short order to DVD. And by some point it might make a TV rotation…forever. That’s the best bet for it to make scratch back.

    With this property, the second time wasn’t a charm…so far…and the flick may not be a charmed enough to stay on screens for much longer. But, that is how it goes.

  • chris Allard

    My son watches Nickelodeon and the trailer for this movie was running (or it FELT like it) every other commercial-a good warning sign of a bad movie. Wasn’t the BK kids toys from this movie sold about a year and a half ago? The movie must have been shelved back then-another BIG sign of a bad movie!

    • Funkybat

      I’ve noticed that, there is often saturation advertising for really bad films. There was a lot of ads and trailers for “Alpha & Omega,” and I remember seeing way too many ads for G-Force and ‘Cats & Dogs 2.”

      Meanwhile, I can’t recall seeing *any* TV ads for “Coraline” and “Princess & the Frog” got an intense but rather brief media blitz right before the release in theaters, but nothing like the ad campaign for “Alpha & Omega.”

      I guess when it comes to film promotion, the “trying too hard” rule applies.

  • http://RottenEggCreations.BlogSpot.com CraftyAndy

    I prefered Hop over Hoodwinked Too, it was pretty damn bad. Mars needs moms? Oh my god that title by itself kept me away from the theater.

  • http://runt.com DavidGoochyGooch

    I don’t know about the sequel but Hoodwinked the first was really, really funny; A ton of fresh ideas and good, quick comic timing as well as a witty and engaging story line far made up for any lack of budget for the animation. And honestly, the story and it’s telling is way more improtant than how the pixels are rendered.