We’ve Got the Winners of Cartoon Brew’s Oscar Survey

The results are in from Cartoon Brew’s Oscar survey and the winners are Pixar’s La Luna in the Animated Short Category and ILM’s Rango for Animated Feature. The full results are below:

Short Oscar Survey

Feature Oscar Survey

As an unfortunate sidenote, we had to end the survey a few days earlier than we’d anticipated because someone attempted to hack the survey over the weekend. Despite the system’s restrictions for allowing one vote per IP, a user with the IP 75.128.42.114 who lives in a residential neighborhood of Glendale, circumvented these safeguards. This person voted a total of 224 times, 221 of those votes for Kung Fu Panda 2. In a show of generosity, the other three votes were awarded to Puss in Boots. We eliminated all of those results and ended up with 618 legitimate ballots.


  • http://www.classicparamountcartoons.blogspot.com ParamountCartoons

    As they say on Youtube (in comments sections):

    1 person works for DreamWorks.

    • Mark R.

      oh Jeffrey……….

  • Joe M.

    I’m a little surprised and maybe a little concerned (obviously a subjective standpoint) but it seems that it happens when Pixar is NOT in the running for the best feature that they have a short in the mix-and that inevitably the Pixar short is consistently voted on if they either lose the feature or don’t have a picture included in that category. What concerns me is that of the hundreds of quality shorts that are made each year that it comes down to a Pixar piece and 4 “others”…

    With perhaps a narrow view of what the category means to me, I feel that the category really speaks to a more independent spirit for the animator and the filmmaker, and studios with far less resources than Pixar make films that, more often than not, challenge the viewer, the filmmakers themselves and the medium of animation.

    I will never deny the quality Pixar filmmakers consistently exhibit but the strength and legitimacy of this category (admittedly not the end all and be all) less if there is a continued overlooking of TRUE independent animation.

    Just a thought.

    • tonk82

      The academy Awards are NOT an independent movie/short awards, they never were, and will never be.

      From time to time, an independent short will win, but that’s a different matter. And of course have little to do with the category being “animated short” or “film”.

    • John

      Well, someone could harp on the fact that The Fantastic Flying Books of Morris Lessmore was authored by an ex-Pixar animator, but I like to think that William Joyce is too classy for that sort of hype since the Oscar nomination was clearly recognition of the team effort over at Moonbot Studios.

      • Me

        William Joyce was never an “Ex-pixar animator” he’s an illustrator and an author but he never animated neither at pixar nor anywhere else.

    • Alan

      Pixar makes solid quality shorts every year, hence the consistent nominations. If you actually check the history though, only Tin Toy, For The Birds and Geri’s Game actually took home the award.

      The academy has been very good in the past at recognizing independant animated shorts, at least in my opinion.

  • Joe M.

    …In addition, please understand I am aware that the above is based on a survey conducted of Cartoon Brew subscribers , but I do believe that this is not far off from how the Academy views and votes…

    • amid

      Joe M. – I think if you asked how many of the people who took the survey had actually seen all five shorts, you’d find it to be a very low percentage. Thankfully, any Academy member who votes in the category is required to watch all the shorts and thus it will hopefully be a fairer assessment of the merits of the films.

      • Lib

        Will it be fairer? Personally, I keep hearing stories (from people that either vote or know someone who votes) of how lightly many Academy members take these decisions. Perhaps it’s different in the final round, but year after year plenty of the awards feel conservative and/or predictable. And very especially in the feature film animation category, that if you ask me, has been a joke ever since it was introduced.

        Of the shorts, I’ve seen them all except for A Morning Stroll, and I voted for La Luna. However, there’s a good chance it won’t win, because it’s Pixar and they’ve already had their share of accolades. That shouldn’t be perceived like that, as the film should be seen as Enrico Casarosas’ effort instead of a studio product, but I believe that’s how the Academy rolls.

        With the features, I don’t understand how there’s even room for doubt. Like every single year, the winner in that category is an open secret. Rango will win. Even if Tintin was nominated, with the Golden Globe and all, Rango would win. This has been obvious for a long time now. It’s an industry and fan favorite (at least in the US), it introduces a much needed diversity among animation winners, it comes from a prestigious studio, and it was critically acclaimed. It will win.

  • Lightning Lion

    I definitely vote for Rango in that pool. I was very pleased when I saw it in the theater. Great textures and character designs, and the story was much more mature than you’d expect from an animated premier these days.

  • Funkybat

    Heh, I actually enjoyed Puss in Boots a little more than KFP2, but that’s probably just because I’m a cat person and liked the feline-centric gags.

    Neither of them were terrible or fantastic. I certainly remember more of the original Kung Fu Panda than the sequel, which is disappointing because it’s probably my favorite Dreamworks “franchise.” (I’d still like to see a 2D sequel to “Road to El Dorado” if we’re talking ultimate favorites…)

    For the Oscar, I would like to see a smaller indie win, but I can’t speak knowledgeably about this year’s crop because I’ve only seen the mass-market films. Out of them, I’d say Rango was the best, but I’m not all that excited about any of them.

    I do wish Winnie the Pooh had at least been nominated, though I wouldn’t call it the best animated film overall either. Not much in it that was groundbreaking, just faithful nostalgic comfort food and hopefully something to whet the appetite of young kids who may not have seen much Pooh or 2D features, for that matter.

  • http://trentanimation.blogspot.com/ Trent C

    (IM PICTURING JEFFREY KATZENBERG IN HIS CORNER OFFICE WITH A REDBULL IN HAND, CAREFULLY VOTING; THROWING A BONE AT PUSS N BOOTS EVERY FEW HUNDRED CLICKS)

    Too funny…Im curious, was Rango still winning despite the extra votes from ol’ Jeffery?

  • Mike

    Now that we’ve had our say, any chance we can hear your thoughts, Amid and Jerry?

  • Anthony D.

    Not surprised with the results. :D

  • http://www.hunteachother.com Max W.

    Haha, wow, someone tried to hack a poll on Cartoon Brew? Nerd of the year award!!!

  • Slinky Dog

    No surprises there….but I’m still ticked that the best feature, “Winnie the Pooh”, wasn’t even nominated…

  • Paul N

    I’ve seen three of the five shorts, and of those I’d probably vote for La Luna, even though it’s predictable. Looking forward to seeing the other two.

  • A Painter

    Despite the system’s restrictions for allowing one vote per IP, a user with the IP 75.128.42.114 who lives in a residential neighborhood of Glendale, circumvented these safeguards.

    ^ Damn. you trace them to their neighborhood eh? lol

    i think the 16 percent for A Cat In Paris is actually all the people that saw that film…in the world.

    • James Burne

      16 percent of the world’s population seeing a film would be a massive success…

      And if they all liked it so much that 100% of that 16% all voted for it, then it must be REALLY good too…

      • A Painter

        ehh am sure the 16 percent on this poll isn’t 16 percent of the world lol

    • Ninja Toes

      Considering that a lot more people probably saw Kung Fu Panda 2 than saw Cat in Paris, those are actually really good numbers.

      I definitely have my fingers and toes crossed for this year. It could happen…

  • http://www.davidfreedman.co.uk David Freedman

    Ah Glendale. How could you?

  • http://www.janetperlman.com Janet Perlman

    Here’s a recent poll in which we now know the results, and it couldn’t have been less accurate: http://www.skwigly.co.uk/oscars-2012-animated-short/

    • http://www.skwigly.co.uk Steve Henderson

      Hi Janet thanks for reading Skwigly. Just goes to show really, how different animators (the skwigly/animation blog readership) and the academy vote! we are running a more current survey which is showing pretty similar results to this one. http://www.skwigly.co.uk/the-oscars-shortlist/

  • evan

    La Luna? Really? It’s so average compared to Wild Life and let’s see, every other CGI short out there right now. I wonder how many would vote for it if they didn’t know Pixar was attached to it.

    • http://www.gfxalchemist.com/ Eric Oliver

      I really liked Wild Life, and La Luna didn’t leave me with as good an impression.

  • Anime Chick

    Wild Life. An actually interesting film.

  • http://www.animatorisland.com/ J.K. Riki

    I really disliked Rango a lot, but I wager it will win. Did the folks who voted for it not catch all the glaring story/consistency errors? Half of it made absolutely no logical sense. The didn’t introduce the big-bad villain until the last two minutes and when they DID he had the most dramatic and out of place change-of-heart you can imagine. And don’t get me started on their skip down to the Uncanny Valley with Clint Eastwood near the end. Uhg.

    • Mike

      No, I apparently did not catch all the glaring story/consistency errors…I keep asking those of you who find fault with this and nobody will point them out. So please…enlighten me.

      **SPOILERS**
      The ‘big-bad villain,’ by which I assume you mean Rattlesnake Jake, was introduced long before the end of the film…his first appearance is when he drives Rango out of town, but he’s foreshadowed even before that. The true villain of the film, to my eyes, was the mayor or really what he represented–forces who looked to destroy the wild and free spirit of the Old West for their own gain. Jake was kind of a gray-area character..he represented this wild spirit and recognized it in Rango once Rango stepped up to fulfill the role he’d created for himself. Jake’s destruction of the symbol of that which would oppose this free spirit, which he recognized to be the mayor, was really not out of place.

      Also…I thought Clint Eastwood looked fine!

      • http://www.animatorisland.com/ J.K. Riki

        I wish I could point out all the continuity errors, but honestly I ranted myself out of remembering them the day of and after seeing the film. I spent hour after hour complaining to my wife about the issues, whatever they were. And I never saw it again, so I don’t really recall at this point. I do remember one being they were in a canyon, and there were the bad rodents after them (on bats maybe?) and they cut away to the next scene and there was no explanation of how they got to that part. I think it was like the bad guys just switched sides or something. I can’t quite recall, I’m sorry.

        As for RSJ, while obviously the Mayor was indeed the ultimate villain, the snake was built up to be this huge character the ENTIRE film and then it was as if they ran out of time so they just tossed him in, he totally changed character from what they had built him as, and that was it. Overall I just thought the pacing was atrocious. Of course, I’m not a big western fan either, I think they can be badly paced as well. Some, not all.

        Honestly, I would love to be able to tell you the many glaring faults that were on my lips when I left the theater, but I just don’t remember them. All I know is it wasn’t nearly good enough to go back and rewatch it just because someone else wants to know why I didn’t like it. If you enjoyed it, kudos. Many other people did as well, so neither of us is right or wrong here. You perhaps didn’t see the issues I did, and I didn’t see things like the human character being well designed and modeled or the free spirit the snake represented. Just difference of opinion. :)

        Likewise I’m not a big fan of abstract art or animation, and to me this felt very abstract while still maintaining solidity. Things that borderline weird and are “interesting” because they’re so different feel pointless to me, outside of the literal expression output you get by DOING them. In those cases I think the journey is the important part, not the end result. Most of the time I find the end result nearly unwatchable. Which is fine, because again, it’s more about the journey for the composing artist.

    • Chelsea

      If you think Rattlesnake Jake is the ‘big-bad villain’ I think you missed most of the story the film was trying to tell. Is that the film’s fault? Who is to say. But not many others here seem to be saying they ‘didn’t get it’.

      I agree that Rango has some issues, as does every film. However you are seemingly discounting the film entirely, which is unfortunate because there is a lot that it gets right. Maybe Rattlesnake Jake should have been foreshadowed a bit more. (I personally don’t think he needed to be, but this is up for debate.) Perhaps the bit with Clint Eastwood was a bit confusing to those who are not familiar with Westerns. Again, I can’t exactly say because I was familiar and I understood the scene.

      But that last point seems key. Rango is a love letter to old Westerns, Western movie cliches, motifs and humor… and some people have no interest in that. If you have no interest that’s perfectly fine.

      Rango’s story structure, however, DOES make sense and can be clearly followed, so that is where I have to say I completely disagree with you. It easily follows the heroic cycle, Rango himself expertly follows the same hero character evolution that every cinematic hero has walked before. He is thrust from ordinary circumstances, he is met by a hermit character who sets him on a path of self-discovery, he gets himself into trouble and finds himself thrust into a position of having to solve a problem. In the process of solving the problem, he learns much about himself. I could continue, but I’m merely trying to demonstrate that Rango is in fact quite a formulaic story. You say half the film makes no logical sense, but the film is fairly utilitarian. Perhaps ist has a few un-needed details here or a confusing scene there, but overall Rango’s path is familiar. That said, the western motifs of the film make it unique.

      I get the feeling that you do not like Westerns. Perhaps I am wrong. Perhaps you adore Westerns and just think Rango did a horrible job of homage. I don’t know, maybe you just don’t care about Rango. That’s perfectly fine. But I did have to say the movie makes sense. You may not like it, but it does make sense. The heroic journey is followed through to a T and it’s structure is apparent throughout the entirety of the film.

  • http://www.animatorisland.com/ J.K. Riki

    I’m confused. There’s an ad for Winnie the Pooh running at the top of this very page, “for your consideration” for the award. You click on it and go to a page that has nothing to do with Winnie the Pooh, and as far as I know it was (mostly unfairly) not even nominated.

    What? Confused…

  • John

    Shockingly, Dreamworks is partially based in Glendale. How do you know this wasn’t 224 seperate Dreamworks employees on their work computers?

    • The Brewmasters

      John, Did you look at the IP address? It’s not connected to the DreamWorks campus, but to a residential neighborhood. In fact, we’ve already identified who we believe to be the culprit, though we’ll spare him the embarrassment.

      If you understand how IPs work, you’ll have no problem confirming that the voting didn’t happen at DreamWorks. But we can also tell you that all the votes took place in 25 second increments on a weekend mostly between the hour of 10am and 11am. That sort of voting pattern can’t be planned between hundreds of artists.

      • Fred Cline

        Can we guess “who done it” and get a prize?

  • John

    Why spare him the embarrassment, it has never stopped you guys before!

  • Jorgen Klubien

    What I don’t understand this year, is how RIO seems so forgotten in all this talk about gilded statues and various awards. Personally I LOVED that film. For me by far the best animated this year!

  • Abubu

    Cat in Paris for the win then maybe Chico and Rita. Rango started off well then went down the Chinatown-homage route.

    And win for Wild Life!