The Angriest Animation Blogger

I’m often critical of the contemporary animation industry, but my criticisms are nothing compared to this new blog called Anibation Fantasy [site was taken down on 2/27/07]. The author of the blog has decided to remain anonymous, though he says he’s an Annie Award-winning artist who’s been in the industry for over twenty-five years. The writing on the blog certainly sounds like that of a grizzled industry veteran who’s seen it all. It’s hard to go wrong with a blog that has the tagline “I work in animation. I am in hell.” and offers post titles like “WHY THE ANIMATION INDUSTRY IS DOOMED,” “THE ANNIE AWARDS ARE A JOKE,” “HORRIBLE CARTOONS THAT EVERYBODY LOVES,” and “ANGRY WOMEN ARE RUINING ANIMATION.”


  • http://www.bishopanimation.com Floyd Bishop

    It’s easy to throw stones when you are anonymous.

  • Scaramanga

    I found this to be particularly funny, I quote:

    “it’s about a bunch of grown men jumping around in colorful tights.”

    I personally don’t seen how that makes Justice League a bad show. The author doesn’t like the show because the characters look the way they’ve looked for the last few decades ? I’d imagine it to be somewhat of a problem to like a show if you’re not too fond of the characters.

    Oh well … as long as the author vents by using the blog I guess we can’t complain. There are people out there who do so using more “extreme” means.

    In a way it’s pretty sad …

  • coolestdude

    I’m pretty sure it’s Bill Wray.

  • http://gagaman.blogspot.com GagaMan

    Looks like John K has been beaten in the “grumpiest animation critic” awards, although at least John K doesn’t hide who he is, and makes really good, useful points. This is just plain old ranting.

  • Jonathan Paquin

    I agree with the previous comment, easy to say everything is so bad, everybody is stupid when you don’t even have to courage to tell who you are. If ALL cartoons are so bad, why don’t YOU do something about it Anibation?

    Actually, there’s so much anger and pointless sh*t throwing in that blog that it might actually be a joke…

  • Steve Wojcik

    I agree with Floyd. He talks up a big game but the lack of his own visual examples are missing and this makes his opinion hard to take in.

  • Christina Skyles

    I dunno… John K.’s pretty much just as angry, and people praise him for it.

  • Floyd Norman

    Haven’t we all been in a meeeting at one time in our career where some “crazy person” gets up and starts saying what everyone is thinking — and dares not say?

    Always nice to know we’re not all walking in lock step.

  • Zubby

    While it’s often amusing to read the unfiltered rants of a bitter malcontent, it gets old quick, especially when it becomes apparent that this person does not seem to have watched half of the programs he is ranting about.
    This guy’s take on ‘criticism’ is like Fox News’ take on ‘discourse’: the loudest and most vile voices are the ‘winners’.

  • Noah

    It’s also easy to become shunned for voicing your opinion. Working in the entertainment industry can be most difficult for the individual. Most animation rants are valid. It’s just too bad it won’t change anything.

  • http://www.dohtem.com Greg Method

    What an excellent and frank blog. Thanks for providing the link. There are only a small handful of sites I check out every morning (yours included), and I definitely think this one will be worked into my routine.

  • Jeff G.

    If Anibator wants a new career after the death of animation, he or she should go into manufacturing bile.

  • http://www.alanrhodes.com protogenes

    He’s dead on about Family Guy though.

  • Aaron

    And this guy calls other animators pretentious? He sees animation as some sort of holy artform that’s being defiled. He preaches the use of multiple styles, and then condemns animators who try them. He doesn’t even understand that fundamental concepts of movement are similar when dealing with animation and live-action. What kind of an idiot complains that there’s not enough movement in Samurai Jack? Someone who knows little to nothing about film-history and is completely unaware of the typical tropes used in period samurai films. He really reminds me of John “bow down before my ignorance” K.

  • Vincent Waller

    With those particular stones, he or she is wise to stay anonymous.

  • http://educatedmetalhead.blogspot.com/ dano

    i loved his rant on Samurai Jack. hell, i liked his rant on a lot of things, and disagreed on others. good blog, thanks for the link!

  • http://awd-sfc.blogspot.com AWD!

    I think he might have some valid points on a few subjects. It’s an interesting read if nothing. Still I wonder, I’ve met more folks that are so angry in this industry, that I’ve had to watch out for myself because I don’t want to end up in the same jaded whirlpool, even though it might be thinking realisticly. It’s hard to grasp that so many people came into this industry to do what they felt passionate about, and yet over time or even immediately, they end up hating it because of all the political stuff going on behind doors. I wany my creativity back.

  • http://chrisbattleillustration.blogspot.com/ Chris Battle

    Best. Blog. Ever.

  • James

    I respect John K’s opinion because he’s John K.

    Obviously if you know someone has talent, you want to listen to them regardless. We can judge for ourselves how highly we want to hold John’s opinion but this ‘anibator’ is just another anonymous angry guy with a blog. Part of the reason he is having this stint of internet fame is because he has extreme views. Hence the post here on Cartoon Brew. Not because he’s known for being a talented artist with a point of view.

  • http://members.shaw.ca/petemslie/index.htm Pete Emslie

    I feel compelled to defend Anibator and his blog. Just before he started posting up a storm on his newly created blog, Anibator had made several valid and well thought out points on John K’s blogsite. Of course, since his viewpoint differed in some respects from John’s, his comments were sneeringly dismissed and he was further belittled and ridiculed by John’s minions, most of whom seem incapable of an original thought themselves. With what the guy has obviously experienced in his animation career at the mercy of corporate execs, followed with his shabby treatment by the Disciples of John K., is it any wonder the guy is bitter?

    I agree with him that the animation industry is being driven to destruction on several fronts. It’s not just the mediocrity that results from corporate types who don’t like or understand the medium, but also the fact that much of the resulting dreck is defended to the death by the unwashed masses who don’t have the good taste to demand something better. I can certainly relate to Anibator’s feelings and I sympathize with the guy. I do however caution him that this bitterness can affect his health if it goes unchecked. I myself have certainly allowed my personal feelings about the decline of Disney during the Eisner years to affect my emotional well-being in the past. I still don’t care for much that comes out of Disney, but I take consolation in the fact that much of the glory of the Walt years is now available on DVD to be enjoyed at my leisure, therefore I don’t really give a damn what they create anymore – it apparently isn’t made with older fans like me in mind.

  • http://www.flickr.com/photos/superadaptoid/ Mr Phoenix

    So what if he’s anonymous? If what he was saying was so far off the mark, nobody would care. But he’s hitting plenty of bullseyes…

  • http://www.animationarchive.org Stephen Worth

    The best way to do something about fixing the screwed up way animation is made today is to actually do something about it. Anonymous blogging doesn’t accomplish jack squat. John K backs up his rants with productive suggestions for how to improve things, and he shares his knowledge and experience in the form of historical articles and art lessons. How many other animators of his calibre have been that generous?

  • http://www.deptap.com Rajesh

    Since most of the comments here have to do with the anonymity of the author, so will mine.

    I don’t see what the big deal is. We don’t sign our names on our ballots when we vote. What matters is the validity of the points, not the identity of the point-maker, even if his points presumably have alterior motives. All that matters is if points hold merit.

  • http://iam-anonymous.blogspot.com i am anonymous

    what a great idea. wish i had thought of it…oh wait, i did.

  • http://crisafullidoodles.blogspot.com/ Marc Crisafulli

    Okay, uh… *LOL*

    The first thing that occurred to me while going through this is that the animation business, like any good walk, is cyclical. It is a process involving collaboration and teamwork. It needs a system of checks and balances, otherwise the end result will either be lacking artistically, or a failure commercially. A business can’t be run entirely by artists any better than the creative aspects of an animated show could be storyboarded, laid-out,
    and animated by business people. Both roles are important for the end result to exist and thrive.

    In the history of animation, there have been times where changes must take place in order to even out this distribution of power. The various strikes that have occured in entertainment over the years—
    The Disney strike of 1941, the voice actors strike of 1986, the Writers Guild strike of 1988… were all neccessary to keep the business on an even keel.

    The role of animation executive may seem unneccessary, but if one were to look at the most successful cartoons in history, this is far from true. Leon Schlesinger may not have cared about cartoons as much as his own interests, but he did trust the creativity of his artists. It was exactly this trust that allowed Porky, Daffy, Elmer, Bugs and the rest to develop into classic characters over time… characters Warner Bros. has since made a great deal of money from in many, many venues. Linda Simensky truly seems to understand the cartoons she produces: the characters, their motivations… which projects will work for their intended audience. How to keep things on track. Fred Seibert trusts the creator as an individual and the merits the medium has to offer. He understands that animation can be a gamble financially, and that variety is not neccessarily a bad thing. George Feltenstein is responsible for keeping many of our classic cartoons available so that younger generations can learn from them. And let’s not forget Walt Disney!

    An animation executive’s job is not to tie productions up in red tape, perpetuate confusion, and con the artist out of his or her creations.
    It is to foster that creativity, to give the artist the freedom and budget he or she needs while keeping them in check.

    I’m growing weary of everyone pointing their big fat fingers at John K. He obviously cares about the business and about animation as an art form. He’s got very strong opinions, and a point of view not everyone can relate to. While his rants can be sometimes confusing, John has also made a tremendous contribution to the success of animation, and to TV cartoons in particular. It would be helpful if more artists out there were willing to be this passionate, using their own perspectives and voices. Artists should be allowed to express themselves, visually and otherwise. After all, this is what being an artist is all about.

  • Anne

    Animation is easy enough to get out of–if it’s such a hell, why not pursue an exciting career as an accountant? Or a cash register wench?

    Oh well–I guess there will always be critics. I just have to say, as an “angry woman,” I am proud to be an (apparent) part of the downfall of modern animation! Yeah! Grrr! Accuracy! :P

  • http://www.frankpanucci.com Frank Panucci

    It’s a fun read. Some of the stuff he says is right. The stuff he says with which I don’t agree is wrong, of course. There’s lots of pure attitude and it’s angrily confrontational, which seems a bit weak coming from an anonymous source. What the hey – I bookmarked the bastid!

    Okay, I’ll guess: It’s Walter Lantz’s froze head in a bucket, bloggin’ from beyond. Saying “Lantz” instead of “Disney” makes the joke fresh.

  • http://siskavard.blogspot.com Corey

    Well, bitching doesn’t help.

  • Graham Ross

    I just like seeing people rant. It makes me feel all fuzzy.

  • Bryan T.

    I actually agree with him on more than I disagree (especially the Family Guy part) and I think the unleashed-hothead vibe is less frustrating than the offhanded dismissals without explanation that sometimes appear here. But I have to agree with Aaron above that the comments on Samurai Jack are completely ridiculous. Samurai Jack is one of the most cinematic TV cartoons I can think of, and brilliantly combines its elegantly simple designs with all those Kurosawa/Leone wide shots and extreme closeups, Brian DePalma split screens and a million other storytelling techniques you don’t see anybody else using in TV cartoons.

    It also lacks a formula (you never know what the story will be about, or even what time period it will be in) and often has long, almost hypnotic sequences without any dialogue – the opposite of this “illustrated radio” that animators are always puritanically railing against. Not to mention the fact that it takes that cartoony style and somehow makes it work for a serious action cartoon.

    That show is indisputably brilliant. If someone has done something more original in TV animation in the last ten years, I’m not sure what it is.

  • Elizabeth

    “Artists should be allowed to express themselves, visually and otherwise. After all, this is what being an artist is all about.”

    I agree with this, Marc, but unfortunately a lot of people working in the animation industry know that we really aren’t able to express how we really feel a lot of the time because we’ll be branded as “hard to work with,” or too bitter, and it will affect our ability to get work in the future.

    Also, I think this blog is letting this guy express himself, so he is doing the same thing John K is, but it shouldn’t matter if he’s doing it annonymously or not, it’s his opinion and regardless of who it is, you’ll still either agree with it or be angered by it- but either way it forces you to think about the things he brings up.

  • Floyd Norman

    I agree with Pete Emslie that you can’t let this stuff fester inside you. If you’ve got a beef, then go after ‘em. I took on “Mikey” with my book, “How the Grinch Stole Disney.”

    Still, the destruction of our beloved industry continues. In my case it hardly matters because no one’s going to hire me anyway. Yet, I still feel for those hardy souls out there still fighting the good fight.

  • Gerit Vandenberg

    There’s something blessedly cathartic about reading enlightened and frank criticism of the animation biz. That is to say, if the criticism hits the nail on the head, you think to yourself “finally someone whose soul hasn’t been deluded by an ‘it’s all good’ facade is saying this!!!” (and personally I don’t care if he’s anonymous because it’s about the substance of what’s being said). As far as I’ve read, our “angriest animation blogger” knows his stuff and he would absolutely have to LOVE animation to make the comments he’s making. If you can’t see that, you’re missing the point.

    Animation has a particularly vulnerable tipping point where hordes of artists aspiring to make the finest work possible get sucked into vapid rehash monstrosities. So it’s good to have some advocacy out here that questions the status quo, even if it leans to the idealistic side of what is ultimately a commercial endevour.

    Some of this inevitably comes down to personal taste, but I very much appreciate having a vigilant voice around in the mix. The internet is perfect for that. It’s not like anyone needs to be threatened by a point-of-view that’s so the exception to the rule either. You have plenty of industry press and publications which toss out self-promotional bones out to its’ readership. Nothing gets as tiresome as that!

  • http://www.ovinedelcu.blogspot.com ovi

    my mornings drinking coffee while surfing the web just got a lot more exciting…

  • Stephen DeStefano

    Yeah, no. That’s not Bill (Wray).
    Doesn’t sound like him;
    Doesn’t write like him.

    And as for my take on the blog in question: I’ll pass on reading it.
    Negativity just makes me sleepy, and I can’t be bothered.

  • http://www.ovinedelcu.blogspot.com ovi

    S,
    thats why i drink coffee while i read…

  • http://cinemahustle.blogspot.com alexander

    As some one who thinks about heading towards the animation industry it’s a good read. It’s also nice to hear some one else call John K. out on largely being full of it.

  • http://swench.com Jean-Denis Haas

    This blog reminds me of a similar one about “which VFX company is the worst one to work for?”. It started out like this one with general rants and ended up with name calling and I believe even phone numbers being posted. It got really ugly.

    I don’t think there is anything wrong about letting other people know about your frustrations. It might get old after while, especially when no solutions are offered. But every now and then you just have to let your frustrations out. Yes, his posts are confrontational and being anonymous seems cowardly, but I dare anybody to write something like that and be honest about who you really are. This industry seems to be very small and you have to be careful about burning too many bridges. I presume anibator has bills to pay and plans on continuing to do so.

    I have only worked for a short time as an animator but I can already see how studio executives have too much power over creative decisions. Imagine working for over 20 years, how demoralizing that must be.

  • http://isleofsmeeb.blogspot.com/ Matt Sullivan

    It’s tough for me to disagree with a lot of what this guy/girl? is saying. He sounds like…well, like me when things don’t go my way. Like when I pitch an idea, and it’s turned down. I stomp around for a while, muttering, “Who did this shmuck executive lick to get their job?” But then, I’m not the most talented artist out there and I never will be, so I try and stay humble. He DOES have good points though.

    I totally agree with him about voice-over artists. Especially when a studio shells out 50 or 60 million of a film’s budget to pay for A-list actors whose instantly recognizable voice RUINS the experience of “getting to know” a brand new character. Then, if the film is a financial failure, they blame it on the artists, and not the overly inflated A-list salaries. But truly, if I hear Charlie Adler or Kath Soucie, or that lady who does Bobby Hill ( and several Bobby-clones on shows like Squirrel Boy ) I think my head will explode.

    I simply MUST agree with him about Class of 3000. I have NO IDEA what it’s about and I’ve seen several episodes. Same goes for Camp Lazlo. Also, Joe Murray has a weird fixation with dubbing fart sounds over every damn confusing scene, it seems. Knowing several many tremendously talented women ARTISTS, I can agree with him, if only about angry women PRODUCERS. One of these New York-bred harpies totally ruined a pilot my friends and I sold early in our careers, turning it into an unadulterated disaster.

    I’m surprised he didn’t mention the proliferation of what seem like GOD-AWFUL live action drek that recently made it’s way to Cartoon Network. I’m surprised he didn’t mention some of the truly MEAN-SPIRITED shows out there like Drawn Together, that just start to turn you off after a while. Just because a show is nice, with a continuing storyiline, doesn’t mean it’ll turn you gay if you watch or like it. I might as well mention UGLY animation. The REPLACEMENTS comes to mind. Squirrel Boy, or any Klasky Csupo Pseudo-European graffiti, or MY GYM PARTNER’S A MONKEY. *shudder* I didn’t intend to start a rant of my own, but this person isn’t saying anything that a great deal of us have thought at one time or another.

  • http://doubleben.blogspot.com/ Emmett Goodman

    I just had a look at this blog. I check out John K’s blog almost daily, and like it, I don’t agree with everything said. However, unlike John K’s blog, I actually understand and agree with more things here.

    I just hope there’s a little faith in getting some decency back into the Animation Industry. This guy makes some good comments about today’s animated shows (except for SAMURAI JACK, I don’t agree with him). He also makes some good points about how animation voice-overs are handled, which is a subject I have bitched about for a long time. Give these amazing voice-actors their jobs back, and give these animated characters their own voices, not celebrity noises.

    The problem with most animated shows today is that they lose their appeal quickly. They just aren’t fresh anymore. We have to figure out how something like the Looney Tunes has managed to keep its appeal after all these years.

  • http://members.shaw.ca/petemslie/index.htm Pete Emslie

    I am not going to dispute what Steve Worth has said in defence of John K. I agree that John has done a lot of good things through the posting of information and personal drawing tips gleaned from years of practical experience. I have really enjoyed the articles he has done on the designers and background painters during the early years of Hanna-Barbera. It is high time that those artists received their due. Steve himself should also be commended for his work with the Animation Archive in preserving art and historical documents for all to benefit from.

    However, the problem many of us have with John is that he is far too dismissive of anyone whose opinions are not exactly in line with his own. Just look at the shabby treatment he gave Mike Barrier recently over the debates that he and John engaged in over on his site a year ago. Barrier’s an intelligent animation critic and those debates were handled quite civilly, presenting valid points from both parties. But apparently, John felt compelled to write Barrier off as a know-nothing who just doesn’t get cartoons.

    The irony is that Anibator largely agrees with much of what John stands for artistically but, once having uttered something that did not fit in with the narrow John K. viewpoint, was denigrated for it. Worse still is the viciousness of many of John’s followers in verbally attacking anyone who is not in lockstep with their Animation Messiah. In their minds, if John K. says it then it must be so! (I also pity poor Ted, who was also nastily belittled by the Disciples.) John’s a brilliant guy with a lot of talent, but his attitude towards others can be repugnant at times. Too bad.

    As for Anibator, I think he’s saying some important things that have needed saying and I hope some good comes of it. I wish him well.

  • http://www.bishopanimation.com Floyd Bishop

    Let me explain a bit about my comment about the anonymous aspect of the blog. While Amid and John K are sometimes controversial in their opinions on animation, they back it up with their names and a forum in which one can counter argue. I read Cartoon Brew everyday, and John K’s blog once in a while (probably not as much as I should). On John K’s, I tend to skip the bits where he’s on the soapbox, but I pay close attention to the animation production pointers he provides. Those parts are pretty good.

    The point I was trying to get at is that it’s poor form, in my opinion, to run down the industry, the Annies, and then specific animators without giving the same opportunity to the people you are publicly attacking. I sometimes agree with Amid, and even less with John K, but I respect their views and respect their take on things. I cannot do the same for someone who hides behind anonymity. Running down specific people, specific shows, and the industry as a whole on a blog without giving your name is poor form, and I can’t get behind it… although I do agree with some of what was there.

  • awo

    Granted, I’m not a grizzled old animator, not even in college yet where i plan to major in animation, but reading all this stuff makes me depressed, like even if I do become an animator it’ll just suck anyways, so what’s the point?

    One drawback (along with the fact that I happen to like one or two of the cartoons he detests) to the site though is the whole “The MAN doesn’t want me saying this! I’m gonna get shut down for this next one!” vibe.

    That said, I’ll still read it from time to time when I feel like depressing myself.

  • http://williamwray.blogspot.com/ Wray, William

    Not me, even folks who don’t like me know I’m up front and sign my name.

  • http://www.animationarchive.org Stephen Worth

    Just look at the shabby treatment he gave Mike Barrier recently over the debates that he and John engaged in over on his site a year ago.

    You don’t read Barrier’s site much I take it.

  • Joe Shmoe

    It’s pretty obvious that this guy has personal issues that probably reflects to his chosen profession, which obviously is in the animation business of course. I’m also in the same biz, also encountered a lot of issues myself. But I never let it affect me because I love this industry. Should anyone throw a comment, I answer back “Maybe you could do something better”. Often times I never get an answer back.

  • http://blog.ghworkshop.com Glenn

    It is so easy to become jaded to the point where the only way you can communicate with anyone is through the filter of your own hang-ups. There are a few things that John K. has said that I agree with, (mainly that many character designs today are copies of other character designs). It is good to be realistic and to remind those of us who are animators that it can be a difficult vocation to go into. As animators though, we must try ad remember that we were once excited about animation, because if we give in to negativity, the art of animation is sure to be lost.

    So many people I have talked to have expressed how frustrating it is that animation is not perceived as a serious art form. I say, as valuable as even negative opinion can be, how can it be taken seriously when we allow ourselves to give up on our passions so easily? Those who are spending this amount of energy towards venting might see fit to stop waiting for big studios to develop good ideas and take matters into their own hands… raise money, work odd jobs, work on your own ideas and then we might not have to rely on “sleazy executives”.

  • http://doubleben.blogspot.com/ Emmett Goodman

    What Floyd Bishop says about John K’s blog is pretty accurate, and I agree with him (Frank) very much. I love some of the points John K makes (when I am able to understand them), not to mention I am also a huge fan of his work (not just REN AND STIMPY, but his animation and humor in general).

    I am reluctant to comment on the blog, however, because I think I need more clarification than I do agreeing. Also, on another note, one of my peers here at Pratt is a regular commenter on John K’s blog, and she doesn’t seem to mind differences in opinion. We are able to discuss a lot, and I don’t consider myself to be in John K’s league, as much as I would like to be.

  • http://rachel-and-kevin.blogspot.com Rachel Newstead

    I have to say that while I agree with a good many things this person is saying (particularly about The Simpsons, Family Guy, and celebrity voice-overs) I’m a bit put off by the tone. There are things I like that the writer doesn’t (“Fairly Oddparents,” for instance) and I naturally resent the implication that I’m stupid because of it.

    This in-your-face approach, it seems to me, will make it less likely this writer will be taken seriously, not more.

  • http://ryuuseipro.deviantart.com John Paul Cassidy

    Anibation’s blog is quite interesting. There are a lot of points I agree with him on, though I disagree with him on others. For one, that the industry is “dead.” Maybe it is, in the MSM, but it’s time for some positive solutions rather than negative ones. Many of us here are already doing that in independent efforts.

    This is exactly like the comics industry. All the bad things people say about modern superhero comics, namely by DC and Marvel, are absolutely spot on. Nothing but cynical and negative dreck, which proves just how desperate both companies are. They go killing off some hero or supporting character, or doing something “shocking” just to get 15 minutes of media attention. (The only redeemable exception is DC: THE NEW FRONTIER.) But as a medium, comics are going quite strong. Mostly stuff outside the superhero genre. And let’s not forget comic *strips* (like PENNY ARCADE)! ;)

  • http://www.goldenagecartoons.com Matthew Hunter

    I agree with some of this guy’s points, disagree with others. But i’ll say the same thing I said on his blog…if he has 25 years experience in animation and thinks what’s going on is bad (and he’s right that a lot of things stink) he should do something about it. I’m sure he has more power to do something than 80 percent of the rest of us. Don’t like what’s out there? Draw something better! As the old saying goes, if you can’t do it, animate someone who can!

  • http://zekeyspaceylizard.blogspot.com ZekeySpaceyLizard

    People like this are one of the main reasons the animation industry is doing so badly.

    He’s not saying anything new. Even novice animators can tell what shows have imagination and creativity and which ones are just repeats of an old concept.

    Its just another angry guy, raising the same red flags that even Cartoon Brew itself raised years ago.

    The only difference is, this guy does it in a much more enraged fashion.

    What happened to people just sitting down, flipping on the tv, and laughing at something silly on tv?

  • vzky

    Oh no! The amalgamation of John K, Matt Wilson and Maddox!

  • Gerit Vandenberg

    Just had to go back and check out the “angry” Anibation man again. He now has a pile of commentary on his blog. Interesting that most of these writers sign in using the dreaded “anonymous” moniker.

    Irony just stalks the guy.

  • Bentos

    Compare with the positive, future’s bright, can-do feel over at Cold Hard Flash.

  • Doug Edwards

    Sturgeon’s Law: 90% of everything is crud.

    While most folks will readily agree with that sentiment (in this case, apply the thought either to animation as a whole, animation blogs and critics, or even just the current state of TV cartoons), the arguments start when trying to get any two people to agree on *which* 90% constitutes the ‘crud’, and which 10% is of lasting worth and has true value.

    While my own personal tastes disagree with Anibator’s insofar as specific shows and feature films are concerned (i.e., I’m a fan of Shrek, Samurai Jack, and yes, even Family Guy), I think his commentary on the impending doom of the animation industry are valid — to a point.

    Let us not any of us forget that neither Fred Quimby nor Leon Schlesinger were ever praised for their love of animation, their artistic vision, or their sense of humor, yet some of the greatest cartoons of all time appeared with their names on the screen.

    Whether this was because the two of them had the sense to stay out of their artists’ way, as is frequently claimed, or whether the gifted directors and animators under them just bulldozed ahead through sheer willpower, creativity, or dedication to their art is a matter for another debate entirely.

  • R Mills

    The thing I find interesting here is this blogger’s overall point seems to be that all of us who care about animation should take control and do something about it together. I for one don’t think one or two people can make a difference. So look what they’ve done…gotten us all up in arms all about one common thing. So perhaps they are right, together we all could change the face of the industry.

  • Norman Rafferty

    Well, it’s certainly a winning formula:

    1. Post anonymous rants about how everything sucks.

    2. Get publicity as the guy who hates everything.

    3. Comments will crop of people who concur with a few of the hate-rants, and who praise someone for finally speaking out against this or that.

    4. Repeat.

    What’s missing is constructive criticism. The guy just hates everything and offers little or no qualifications on what would actually be good.

    I suppose it’s handy to have all the rants in one place, instead of having to Google for them.

  • http://anibation.blogspot.com Anibator

    Hello, all…
    I never aspired to use my site to improve the industry or any such thing. I just set it up so that those who were frustrated could express themselves freely. As it turns out, that’s a LOT of people. Anyway, thanks to Cartoon Brew for the plug.

    The site and the hype will probably be gone by tomorrow.

  • Jeff G.

    I’d say the Simpsons movie trailer is the best riposte so far.

  • Ashley James

    What’s missing is constructive criticism???
    What happened to take the ‘criticism’ and work from there?
    If you don’t accept ANY criticism then, there would be no change!

    Anibation, keep your site up.

  • http://www.animationarchive.org Stephen Worth

    There are two types of anonymity… One is used to say something important that couldn’t be said publicly without unfair retaliation. The other is to say irresponsible things without fear of being held responsible. There’s plenty of both on this blog. It’s a shame because too much of the latter pretty much negates the value of the former.

  • Jorge Garrido

    >Oh no! The amalgamation of John K, Matt Wilson and Maddox!

    Cool, I like them all!

    I’m really enjoying this blog.

  • Mr. Semaj

    In spite of all of the newer perspectives from this blog, my main problem is that these pissed-off artists are so afraid of losing their jobs, when they choose to chastise an evil executive, they won’t tell us who the hell they are. If animation is THEIR medium, why are they in hiding?

    All these cartoonist blogs have accomplished so far is filling us outside enthusiasts on the dark side of being an animator, and telling us how cartoon stories should be written. But even John K. offers no SOLUTION to the problem. Are we who hope to become animators supposed to set up our own underground studios? Write angry letters to TV executives? What?

  • http://www.animationarchive.org Stephen Worth

    The reason animation pros choose to remain anonymous is pretty obvious. It’s a small business and burned bridges take a long time to rebuild. They also speak anonymously because of what they see happening to other pros who choose to speak out using their name. The internet has a disproportionate number of loudmouth idiots who aren’t able to debate civilly and resort to ad hominem attacks. They’re always eager to tell someone with decades of experience and accomplishment that he’s wrong in a particularly disrespectful way… under an anonymous name themselves, of course.

  • Vincent Waller

    The site in question appears to be by invite only now.

  • Joe

    It’s gone now! Its a shame stuff like that could spark a change.

  • Joe

    Is that why it disappeared? Darn, and I liked reading his rants, too. Is there any way to get invited or read the blog somehow?

  • http://reddiabla.blogspot.com/ Red Diabla

    Pity that the blog is gone already. I thought it was hilarious.

  • http://www.brianromero.com/ Brian Romero

    I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced. I fear something terrible has happened.

  • Joe

    If you liked it so much start a blog of your own like his. Obviously it’s something that’s needed. It would be a Collective voice of animators.

  • http://www.shamoozal.com Frank

    wow. i liked reading that. i though it was pretty damned funny, too (not to mention that i agree with some of it). wonder why?

  • http://coyotecoyote.livejournal.com/ David McGuire

    That was a great blog!
    I was really disappointed that it was gone before I had the chance to show it to anyone.

    Constructive criticism is all nice and good, but sometimes you just want to read an angry rant that doesn’t solve anything. I don’t see why you would even have to AGREE with the rant to enjoy reading it. And having a problem with someone being anonymous on THE INTERNETâ„¢ is like having a problem with someone wearing a hat at a baseball game.

  • Paul

    I think someone was so upset with the site they’ve decided to hack in and mess with it. When I hit my bookmark for it this morning my browser was redirected to a gay porn site.

    I guess when you do the “truth to power” thing and ruffle feathers it doesn’t take much for those who disagree with you to try and silence you.

  • http://www.kellykilmer.blogspot.com/ kelly

    Um, Jerry, you might want to point out *not* to go to the link any more unless you want to be redirected to a gay porn site. I am very happy that my 10 year old was not by my side when I clicked on the link.
    UGH!

  • Anibator

    Hi…

    First of all, I don’t know how or why the site name now redirects folks to the “adult” page, but I can assure you I had nothing to do with that.

    Anyway…

    One of the main reasons I started the blog was to inspire lots of other people to start similar no-holds-barred blogs wherein people could rant and debate. Power of numbers and all that.

    But it became very clear that as long as I was doing it, no one else was going to bother.

    A few splinter sites have popped up here and there, but they all moderate their comments.

    Anyway…

    I got to say some things that needed to be said and, I would like to hope, I got some people to think about some things in ways they might not have thought about before.

    Thanks to CB for the plug… it was only after the mention here that the numbers for the site really shot up.

    Thanks also to everyone who supported the site and wrote in saying things like “this is the best blog ever”… it was very encouraging. I feel a tiny bit less angry about the industry because of you good people.

    But I had always maintained that I would take the site down as soon as I felt like it without notice, and that’s exactly what I did.

    Thanks again,

    Anibator

  • http://www.autodaddy.blogspot.com tom

    yeah, I just tried it myself and got that gay porn thing. Glad I work from my home.

  • http://sandorasan.blogspot.com/ Sandra Khoo

    Dang! Oh well…

    Thanks for sharing your views, Anibator. Whoever you may be.

  • http://- J Ludwick

    I got the gay porn thing, too. Sure glad I’m at work! Who took it down? It just had the chance to get some media buzz!

  • http://- J Ludwick

    Okay, sorry – I see that Anibator removed it. I feel like Abibator was rare; Hollywood is the New Royalty, and they control negative information with a vengeance. John K can still keep going, and Brad Bird actually uttered a small grievance in his ‘Fresh Air’ interview. This is the stone that starts the tidal wave. We hope.

  • D Davidson

    It seems Anibator returned, and the posts for the most part are all there…

    http://anibationfantasy2.blogspot.com/

  • The Painful Truthsayer

    Animation in all of its commercial forms will soon only be done in 3rd world countries in crappy sweat shops, so most of the people reading this blog won’t have to worry about the state of the industry anymore, the industry will just go away, along with all its problems, to a country where even the poorest of working conditions is considered a bonus.