<em>A Bear Film</em> by Kris Anka <em>A Bear Film</em> by Kris Anka

A Bear Film by Kris Anka

A Bear Film is a third year CalArts effort that looks like an animated version of a Lou Romano colorscript. It’s created–entirely in Photoshop believe it or not–by Kris Anka. The bear animation is cute and pleasing; the glaring misogyny isn’t (women in the film are depicted only as promiscuous girls or raging housewives). The latter might be attributed to the filmmaker’s youthful immaturity and shouldn’t outweigh the film’s positive points.

(Thanks, Rohit Iyer)

  • I really loved it !

  • S

    Why shouldn’t it? I mean, you yourself posted that list with only two female directors, and every head honcho starts small somewhere. So why shouldn’t we fight the status quo? Especially when it’s in the infant stages?

  • Dave

    Good job!

  • Mitch Leeuwe

    Funny animation. I liked the parts with the bear the most.

    Too bad cartoon brew is so subjective. I always thought it was some sort of news site for animation. But it’s more like a blog with the personal opinions. Leave the comments for rants.

  • Misogyny? Are you really that hyper-sensitive?

    Should he have thrown in some girl-power characters just so gentle souls wouldn’t be offended?

    The women I know can easily roll with it.

    Great job Kris!

  • amid

    Um, Mitch, I regret to inform you that the reason Cartoon Brew feels “more like a blog with the personal opinions” is because it’s a blog with personal opinions. There are plenty of other sites that have straight animation news if that’s what you’re looking for.

    Darryl – Call me “hyper-sensitive” if you like, but I was turned off by the film’s treatment of women and was sharing how I felt. I’m not speaking for anybody but myself, and your mileage may vary. The filmmaker’s immature and unworldly attitude towards women is symptomatic of too many student films that I see (and I’ve seen a lot recently). It diminishes what is otherwise an entertaining film. Disparagement of women is a cheap way for students to get laughs, and it gets old quick, especially when it’s done as unimaginatively as in this short.

  • Amelia

    I don’t think there’s anything wrong with how women are portrayed in this film. It fits with the story he is trying to tell. I’m a woman. I didn’t even think about it when I watched the film. Calling it out seems a little over-sensitive and overly PC. The film is about escaping from an empty joyless existence. The co-workers are portrayed as shallow womanizing frat boys, and his wife is a nagging bitch. Everything outside of the bear, the main character and the bar is portrayed negatively. Everything serviced the story he was trying to tell. The film isn’t saying women can only be promiscuous or nasty old nags. It’s saying everything in this man’s life sucks. Isn’t it also saying that outside of the main character, men are all shallow womanizing dicks? Why didn’t you take the time to get offended for the men? It looks like all the men in the office are white too. Couldn’t we also be offended that all the office workers are white? There’s just so much to be offended by if we really take the time to look!!

  • Tim Schuit

    Nice little film.

    Isn’t the least bit misogynistic though, lol (although maybe Amid was joking? Sometimes hard to tell sarcasm through text). It uses satire to portray the problems with certain relationships (in this case, having a nagging spouse), but that’s not misogyny.

    If we’re going to call this misogyny then I guess a woman could come along and say that the film is full of misandry too, because the man is portrayed as irresponsible.

  • Standard brain jelly.

  • purin

    I loved the way the bear acted.
    Was that his wife? She looked like she could have been his mother.

    The role it plays is small, but it’s there: Women only as the thorn in your side or some bit of sex material. The standard office has (and has had) a good number of women in it beyond that one sexy one. We should be beyond simply assuming the white collar belongs to men.

    I’d say a breadwinner coming home late and wasted without at least calling ahead of time is a perfectly fine reason to give him hell. From his point of view, he’s a suffering hard worker, but from the dependent’s point of view, he’s supposed to be the responsible one in the household. To his employer he’s absolutely worthless. She (if that phone call implies she’s a housewife) has to rely on him to live. In the end, he rebels from an ungrateful wife and not an oppressive workplace.

    I wouldn’t say it ruined the film, but it’s worth bringing the point up, at least in analysis.

  • Keith

    I would never have considered the film offensive to women if it wasn’t pointed out. Even then, I still don’t. Great job!

  • Daniel J. Drazen

    I thought the proportions of the bear were skewed so that its head and face were more suggestive of a cub than an adult bear. OK, except in the scene where the bear proves to be handy in a bar fight. That is one cute bear.

    And it seemed to me that the “old nag” waiting for the protagonist at home was old enough to be his mother. No wonder he gave up on civilization!

  • Tom Cushwa

    Thanks Tim!
    I learned a new word today. Misandry. Now if I can use it 3 times in a sentence today then it could become part of my vocabulary. Hum….

  • Bill Field

    Amid, I am really grateful for all of the animated shorts that you present here, it is a lot of work to do what you and Jerry do, and I, for one, really appreciate it.

  • misogyny? really? cute film

  • Scarabim

    Meh. It was okay. I guess. As for the misogyny…yeah, it’d be much more interesting if this toon, or ANY toon, would look at such situations from the wife’s point of view. But there is still this lingering, ’50’s-era idea when it comes to cartoon couples, the wife must be the long-suffering one in the husband/wife relationship, and shame on her if she doesn’t accept that role gracefully. If she complains, she’s a nag; if she tries to get the guy to straighten out, she’s a nag. Kind of reminds me of the worst aspects of latter-day Fairly Oddparents cartoons (poor Wanda). That’s why I really appreciate cartoons like Phineas and Ferb, and the more-recent Kick Buttowski, in which girl characters who are set up as antagonists are nonetheless given a warm, sympathetic side. I think that’s definitely been a factor in P & F’s success. Aspiring animators ought to learn from that.

  • John

    What about the portayal of the bear, Amid?

  • S

    Amid, most people have a hard time seeing things in shades of grey. To them, everything is black and white, misogyny or not misogyny. You don’t have to outright say “women are inferior” to be misogynist. There are varying degrees, and this certainly has one of them – an old stereotypical portrayal of women.

    I find it funny how people are saying you’re “reading too much into it” or “thinking too much about it” (cliche cop-outs!). Because, really? It barely took any mental effort to come to that misogynist conclusion – that is, if you know anything about stereotypes and don’t walk around in a sunshine world with blinders on!

    So, I thanks, for being aware of the shades of grey in this world (and a male who’s aware of misogyny at that!) and for not turning off your brain and pretending the world is a sunshine land.

  • Mark

    Too much controversy over a middling cartoon.

  • S

    And also, I get why you *only* mentioned the portrayal of women. Because it was only two *women* on that director list, not only two *men*.

    In other words, people need to brush up on their history. You can portray both a man and a woman in a stereotypical light, but it is the woman who has historically been more disenfranchised, and who is still fighting for equal footing (the number of female directors in Hollywood – or at least in animation – as exhibit A), and it is the woman who still feels the effects of that historical mindset much greater than a man could.

  • Matt

    This super-hyperactive oversensitivity is what is wrong with the world today.

    Any person in their right mind understands that Kris Anka does not ACTUALLY think all women are like the ones he has portrayed in his film. He used characters that were necessary to the plot of his story. If he had made his wife and co-workers nice, lovely women… he would have no story.

    And you know what? IT’S FUNNY! Get a sense of humor and stop being so worried about everything that could possibly be offended to .01% of the population.

  • Amber

    Whatever the portrayal of women (/bestiality??) was, I am glad to have watched this short. Thanks for sharing! Beautiful art direction.

  • Andy

    Really cute. Could have done without the misogyny disclaimer (as i was watching and waiting for something offensive). Excellent work!

  • It’s odd to see how trends seem to evolve at calarts. No line, block colour, limited animation inspired by the japanese style and simple character design with free drawing seems to be the current trend. Correct me if im wrong, because i don’t go to the school, but it seems like the same school that spawned nelson boles’ wonderful short ‘this one time’.

    I would be interested to see quite how it is animated in photoshop — every time i try to do animation in photoshop i am defeated by its limitations (a new layer for each frame, no such ‘flipping/scrubbing’ feature, and the inability to change timing easily. Are there any sort of tutorials to show how films like this are made in photoshop? Most the tutorials I’ve seen just show boring ‘moving’ autoshapes, nothing like the drawn animation that would interest the likes of us.

    anyway, this is a very entertaining film. I’d agree with amid’s point about misogyny, but misogyny is in animation everywhere. Just look at despicable old disney shorts such as ‘the cookie carnival’ or even the work of fred moore..

  • I thought it was pretty dang cute, and I think he pulled off the colors and appealing drawings quite well!

    I don’t think there’s anything wrong with Amid observing misogyny, and it doesn’t take away from its direct aesthetic value. I don’t understand people who act like they’re some sort of countercultural renegade for disregarding a legitimately anti-sexist viewpoint as “PC.”

  • Yeah. You are being hypersensitive. It’s funny.
    And as for youthful immaturity, that is what how I feel everytime I read one of your articles.

  • robiscus

    I’m gad there is more than a half century of comedic film that was made before this politically correct, hyper sensitive sentiments of alleged misogyny emerged in todays retarded discourse on our culture. At least I can still enjoy the sterling performances of Madeline Kahn and get away from the whining.

    The sexes are different. They make fun of each other(and themselves). This is news how?

  • skid

    I really liked that, especially the part where they’re in the bar ahhaha.

  • Tyler

    This is the single most immature and naive student short that i’ve ever seen. Talk about no life experience this “KRIS ANKA” has no freaking clue as to how life works. BEARS KILL PEOPLE KRIS…They cant do office work. BEARS CANT DO KARAOKE!!!!WHAT THE HECKERS WAS THAT!!!!!!!!!!!! HELLLLOOOO! IS anybody in there?!! I mean its laughable isn’t it amid that students think they can go obscuring reality in cartoons. I mean its downright ridiculous. This might be attributed to the filmmaker’s youthful immaturity and shouldn’t outweigh the film’s positive points.

  • I liked the part where the guy looked up from his cubicle and a guy colleague was spanking a girl colleague’s butt.

    I liked the unusual aspect ratio.

    I liked the look on the guy’s face when he made up his mind to let the bear ride with him.

    I didn’t like the swearing.

  • Some Dude

    Wow, it’s amusing to see how people get so bent out of shape when someone comments that maybe stereotyping an entire gender is a lame joke and a little insulting.

    It’s a harmless comment for Amid to make and it in no way hurts you to think about it. Are you so invested in the well-worn “wah i hate my nagging wife” joke that you have to get up in arms when someone criticizes it? Those kinds of jokes were old and boring before I was born and they’re cringeworthy when they get reused so often in this day and age.

    It’s a nicely done film. The woman jokes are what they are: cheap laughs. But you look like a fool when you start passionately defending your precious right to ridicule women.

  • S

    Some Dude, your views are quite attractive!

  • I think it’s amusing when people get bent out of shape over 2 jokes in a little student film. I have a hard time taking Male feminists seriously anyway.

    Here’s the thing I noticed waaaay back in school: When GUYS speak out for the women, beating their chest about how women should be portrayed in the media blah blah blahL: They were USUALLy doing so just to impress girls.

    Hey, just making an observation.
    Heh heh.

  • Anonymous

    Why is it the ‘misogyny’ gets called into question but not the liberal use of ‘F Bombs’? I find unnecessary swearing more appalling.

  • You can´t be Homoerotic without being a little misogynist… and that´s what this film is about, isn´t it?

  • S

    Yes, John S., men can never care about women as fellow human beings. They only care about the rewards.

    So, John, what if a feminist, gay man finds Mike’s views attractive?

    (or what if… you’re making sexist stereotypes against your own gender!)

  • Scott R.

    You’re hardly in any position to blame anyone for their immaturity, Amid.
    I enjoyed the short.

  • Andrew

    Jesus, what a bunch of self-important blowhards. It’s a STUDENT FILM, guys. S-T-U-D-E-N-T. The reason that student films are so fun to watch is that they’re raw, undisciplined, straight-from the gut. They’re a young artist’s cartoon id lurching forward in a first attempt towards expression. There’s no focus testing, no demographic consideration, no manners, no fear- just the untamed desire to create and explore. Are they offensive? Often. Are they oddly paced? Usually. Are they still more interesting and personal than 99% of professionally produced studio work? Pretty much always.

    It’s fine for you to dislike the nagging old crone and bar bimbos, Amid, but when you throw around a 100 megaton word like “misogyny,” you seem to just be asking for controversy. The depiction of all the side characters in the film, women and men, was in service of the story- about a guy who’s trapped in his life by people who dont appreciate him, until he decides to rip off his tie and go live in the wild. Trying to shoe-horn in a friendly female co-worker or understanding wife wouldn’t have made any sense in that story- it would have weakened the narrative to the point of making it confusing. What I’m getting at is that the core concept of the story has nothing whatsoever to do with gender politics.

    UNLIKE… for example… a short you posted a few weeks back, “Dan The Man” which had the clear message of “Women! Always yak-yak-yakking for more and more money! Who needs ’em!” I mean, that was LITERALLY the entire story arc. Why it is that you forgive an entire story that amounts to a “women-are-a-pain-in-the-ass” one-note punchline, but then cherry pick the women characters in a film that isnt even making a statement about women is baffling to me.

    To make it clear, I dont find either short offensive. I think they’re fun and ridiculous and I give the film-makers the benefit of the doubt. But your glaring double standard seems to say more about your opinion of Calarts than it does about your opinion of “misogyny”

  • Sabrina

    Ten bucks says you wouldn’t have been bothered by what you perceive as “glaring misogyny” if this film hadn’t come from Calarts.

  • A Fan

    Dear Amid,
    If you are indeed a critic, or whatever the heck you are,
    and if you are gonna criticize a specific point made in the film, please at least have the intelligence to consider what this story is about.
    Time and time again, you are known in the professional animation industry for making shallow statements that do not see beyond the surface (and sometimes even seeing the surface in it’s truthfulness seems hard for your mental capacity).
    But honestly I get tired of being embarrassed for you.
    It is obvious that this artist is not taking any stance on women. It is just that his portrayal of the protagonist’s life in its current state is miserable.
    It is obvious that this person is not glorifying the treatment/behavior of the women in this short film. (If anything, he is reflecting it with a negative light) When that man looks up to see the women being spanked in the office, or when he shows the wife yelling, what does that look like to you?
    Could it be satire? Could it be a caricature of a mindless life?
    Is he saying treating women that way is good? Is he promoting that wives should act that way? Who’s point of view is this story told from?

    Basically you are missing the whole point.
    Amid, if you are indeed a critic, or if you are at least going to even pretend to be one, you really need to try and understand what each scene/ visual component is meant to signify in the film.
    This artist is obviously not stating that women should be treated this way, or is he saying that all women act like this. Did it ever concur to your critical thinking that maybe this film’s story is about the absurdity of modern life as a whole (NOT JUST THE WOMEN, BUT ALL THE MEN TOO), and one’s need to say screw it all?

    The criticism you are trying to make is similar to saying that after reading a Princess Sultana book(a book that portrays the treatment of women in Saudi Arabia), that the book should be criticized because no where can you find a ‘strong female figure’, someone that exemplifies a good example of a women.

    Hey I have a suggestion: you should take writing for film classes, or any art criticism classes!
    I promise you it would help you a lot. If you already have taken such classes, take them again, it is obvious to me (and the whole world agrees) that you didn’t get your money’s worth.
    Just as you accuse this artist for youthful immaturity, I would love to accuse you of just… plain old immaturity. At least this guy has his youth to blame his immaturity for… what’s your excuse?
    Seriously though, I’m totally rooting for you next time to actually know what you are talking about for once! Please…just for once!!
    Yay!!! GO AMID!

    -The president of Amid Amidi’s fanclub.

  • greatness

    crazy that it was fully made in photoshop

  • First the Cleveland Brown show and now this. How will Americans get back on their feet if offices keep dolling out jobs to grizzly bears?

  • ShouldBeWorkin

    Well done. Good story. Does look like the color script especially the color scheme of Bob Parr’s office in the Incredibles.
    And I guess because neither am I a young pup I thought the swearing was unecessary ( could be replaced by gibberrish as in some European animation adding to its unversality) AND I like my characters to have outlines.
    I know where you are coming from with the depiction of women but I take it as the character’s perception and sometimes strong stereotypes are needed to immediately engage with the audience; we know immediately what his domestic situation is like without alot of back story. It was a good call on the student’s part.

  • purin

    Let’s not fool ourselves into thinking anyone on either side is getting “bent out of shape” over this film. We get bent out of shape over internet debates, because we are masochists (I theorize)!

    I think student films are fair game for analysis. They’re done by students, and you should hope that this isn’t the pinnacle of their artistic career. Criticism isn’t killing, destroying, or banning a work. At the worst, in this case, it’s an expression of disappointment that a young, contemporary artist is falling into such an old and outdated trope that is implicated and comes from a rather dismal history. Is it possible to use tropes successfully? Absolutely. It’s the secret behind a lot of success (Princess movies, anyone?). Does that make them right or not worth pointing out or criticizing at all? Not necessarily.

    Since we’re on the subject of the good old days of not worrying about offending people, I would to say something I realized a little bit ago watching some banned cartoons: That old, pre-PC humor looked back on with nostalgia that is generally funny even if, now and then, you cringe and remind yourself it was made in a different age? That’s the stuff that has survived the test of time and still lives to see the light of day! There is so much stuff that didn’t have to wait until “our hypersensitive age” to get swept under the rug, because they were a faulty product. I’m not defending every little bit of censorship out there, but there’s a reason why certain cartoons are in collections only animation and culture studies nerds would buy.

    This film falls into that extreme, but it’s worth remembering.

  • I personally agree with Tyler, talk about immature!!! Who in their right mind would hire a bear to do office work!! You know someones getting fired for that one! And GETTING A BEAR DRUNK? do you know how many beers it would take to get something of that size inebriated?!?! PUH-leaze why don’t you get a clue Anka and start making films that make sense and stop trying to shove this whole I’m a bear I’ll be your friend thing down our throats, like Tyler said bears kill people dummy!!! Cartoons are meant to portray real life buddy, get with the picture!!!

  • timmyelliot

    I loved the look of the film… but that’s a student film cliche portraying the story of a guy who escapes the dreary office life. I think Mark Osborne’s More was the best version of this tired story.

  • Jeff

    Man, I really enjoyed the short. Then I read the description.

    Now I remember why I haven’t come here in six months.

  • timmyelliot

    Laughing. I just read the comment about misogny. That was a joke, right?

    One could argue that it’s really Misandry: depicting the man in the film as being co-dependent and resorting to immature defensive mechanisms (fantasy, passive-agression, escapism).

  • I’d also point out this was likely a candidate for the student festival, and Amid is stating why it wasn’t a selection for him.(half his festival afterall)
    Masterfully produced *but*
    Student films are also an entry vehicle to the industry, so this film would appeal to a male dominated frat boy mentality industry.

    To say that there is *no* sexism in the animation industry is to lie like a rug.

    My first job was at a studio called “funbag” (a euphemism for breasts)
    My then girlfriend and classmate approached the “mad men” like owner at the school open house about applying, and got a cryptic “too many queens in the deck” snide remark.

    Ask any old timers about impropriety with the “ink & paint girls”.

    Disney wouldn’t even hire female key animators!


    times are a changin’ as the song says, but animation is a few years behind the rest.

    Jessica Borutski whom is one of the best artists Ive ever worked with (gender aside) got artistically kicked down the stairs by Amid for her work on the new looney toons. So at least he doesn’t reverse discriminate.

    I liked the film and wouldn’t of thought of it in this way, but keep pushing buttons, Amid! it gets the discussion going.

  • Ryan M.

    I can only hope that these themes of mysogyny and promiscuity carry further into Mr. Anka’s career once he’s a feature film director. Because he’s obviously destined for that.

  • Nathan Strum

    I’m still waiting to see one of the films that Amid has animated, so that we can comment on it.

    Still waiting…

    Still waiting…

  • amid

    Murray: You are incorrect in saying that the film was a candidate for the CBTV festival. It wasn’t. I saw it last night for the first time when I ran across it on a Facebook friend’s page.

  • I can see Amid’s point, and it does feel a little immature in its nature, but then that is this guys perspective as he isn’t yet old enough to tell the ‘older’ life stories, so tell it why you’re young!

    It was a nice, if not mainstream view of the male office worker, and no doubt what a lot of guys feel they go through. no doubt this would make an excellent double pack film if there was a similar stroy told from the woman’s point of view, with pretty much the same goings on in the office, at home, etc. I doubt that would be construde as a neg towards guys, but that’s cos it’s kinda cool to be pro-equality (which in my opinion often results in boring, middle of the road films. If not all the time, it definately kills a fair few could-have-been-good ones)

    On a technical note, I’d like to know what kind of system this guy was running, and see a tutorial on how he animated this in Photoshop! I found the tools in there to be pretty fiddley to work with, so he may know something the rest of us don’t! I love the aethetic though. Also, my computer lags like you wouldn’t believe with photoshop animation, although this looks like it was made for a lower res, although I could be wrong.

    Anyone with points of the Photoshop animation, I’ll be thankful! Cheers.

  • Hal

    “The latter might be attributed to the filmmaker’s youthful immaturity and shouldn’t outweigh the film’s positive points.”
    Stop pussy-footing around. Lots of great directors on both sides of the gender aisle have immature, mysoginistic, hyper-femenist, idiotic conservative, uber-liberal and sometimes naive gender attitudes. I’d say the animation world in general has idiotic gender identities in most of its American feature content. But the fact remains – I’d rather have talented directors making their skewed perspective and get outright called on it (so they either consider it or tell their critics to goto Hell and continue down their path) than soften the blow and continue the “Animation” attitude of “if its pretty, content can go by the wayside.” I’m disappointed that after all the fire and brimstone on this site, when something worth saying comes up you sort of pushed it to the side with that last, WEAK sentence.
    What an elegant non-pandering post it would have been if it ended a sentence earlier.

  • Though I will add that it would probably be a bad HR move to get a bear into an office as an employee. I mean, think of the damage it would do, and it probably wouldn’t be able to do paperwork.

    Still though, I like the part where the guy looks up and there’s another guy spanking a girl and she’s liking it.

    But I mean, c’mon…hiring a bear as an employee? That’d bad HR. And also bringing a bar into a pub is probably not the wisest thing to do. Is that guy guy crazy or what?

    I mean, c’mon fellas.

  • doop

    I hope we all learned something from this film. Never make a film about anything ever.

  • MKid

    Wow seriously… REALLY???? I swear this blog gets more and more ridiculous as time goes by… I think you are just ripping on people to get sh#t started here anymore. I thought the film was great, there is really no reason to read into it so much. At this point you’re just being a jerk.

  • Hey S.
    I never said that. I’m just saying that guys that go out of their way to decry misogny and sexism are usually doing it for the fringe benifits.
    And I’ve NEVER met a feminist gay man. Nor have I seen a unicorn.
    I don’t think either one exists.
    Why are you so bothered by my comment? Is this how you met your current boyfriend? He tell you all about how much he hates Howard Stern because Howard demeans women? Tell me if I’m warm.

  • I usually don’t comment, but I’ve been surprised by the arguments going on recently. Seems people are more upset that Amid and Jerry are giving their opinions, then what the opinions actually are.

    Criticism is good. It makes things better and it’s one of the aspects of Cartoon Brew that makes it an interesting website.

  • M’da

    I’m so offended by this film… SO… Offended. I’m really worried that CalArts kids are going to ruin the industry with their misogynistic films.

  • Eric Drobile

    I used to like bears.

    I can only hope that the catalog of animated student films with office workers and bears in them will expand. It truly is fantastic subject matter. :)

  • …”youthful immaturity?” You don’t even know this guy…
    I’m a woman and I wasn’t bothered by the film at all. Our hero lives in a world completely constructed by men. Everyone is a jerk in this world. There are no lovely, independent bohemian gals to save Mr. Doormat. He’s rebelling against that, too.
    What I AM offended by is the fact that Calarts students are still making films about bears. Come on! Calarts is supposed to be a bastion of progressives!!!

  • amid

    Eric Drobile: Let’s not forget the mother of all bears-in-the-workplace films —The Bear That Wasn’t.

  • Jena

    The film’s hue comes off a little green on this site.

  • Before you chalk it up to willful “misogyny”, consider that it might just be observation of life.

    I’ve met those women. They exist.

    Fun piece. I’d be curious to know what his faculty adviser thought about it.

    Slowly paced, as are many student films, but you can’t claim he was trying to hide the paucity of animation.

  • purin

    I’d forgotten about The Bear That Wasn’t! Wow, what an eerie cartoon.

  • Eric Drobile

    Well now I just have to plug mine.

    The Animator and the Seat

    Doesn’t hold a candle to The Bear That Wasn’t, though. Thanks for the posting both!

  • hey amid, what would be those positive points you are referring to in my film?

  • S

    John S.

    You have a lot to learn about the world, sweetheart, if you think I’m as surreal as a unicorn. ;) Take the blindfold off and step out of your cozy little box.

    As I said, feminism isn’t about “benefits”, none of which I benefit from *as much* as women; it’s about bringing up those who have long been kicked down to an equal level. And it’s certainly not an equal level in the animation industry.

  • peter wassink

    I love the lineless style, very nice work Kris!
    …but made entirely in…Photoshop? that sounds like a crazy waste of time.

  • amid

    Kris: If I’m not mistaken, I’ve already pointed out your film’s sense of color and the animation of the bear. Hope that’s helpful.

  • S!
    First of all, don’t call me sweetheart unless you are willing to pony up for Dinner and a movie first. I get to pick the movie…and the restaraunt.
    You are a gay male feminist?? Holy shit!!!
    Is Big foot real too? How about Chupacabra?
    You don’t have to tell me what feminism is supposed to accomplish Sweetie, (Does the S stand for Sweetie?)
    All I’m saying is that the womem I know in this business don’t need anyone to speak up for them and it comes across as damned condescending when a guy stands up with a catch in his throat to speak out about how women have been so mistreated in this business. Usually, the guy doing the talking is only doing so to get in good with the ladies.
    So you are obviously an exception. Congratulations.
    You want a medal?

  • Hey KrisANka!
    Funny film! Tighten up the timing a bit and it will be Awesome.
    Also, don’t let anyone tell you what is and is not funny. That is up to you!

  • S

    I touched a nerve. Cute.

    “All I’m saying is that the women I know in this business don’t need anyone to speak up for them and it comes across as damned condescending when a guy stands up with a catch in his throat”

    You’re essentially speaking for women right now… but I digress, I will have to as well for a rebuttal. Though, from experience, of course.

    None of the lovely ladies I know feel this way. They only feel so if he’s got feminist values all wrong or tries to talk over the women who are leading the discussion for standing up for themselves. Most women appreciate it if a guy genuinely ‘gets’ it. And most women can tell if a guy is genuine or in it for a ‘reward’.

    And sure, give me a medal, sweetheart – I opened you up to a whole world you dismissed as nonexistent! ;)

    But I still think there’s a lot out there you n ed to be opened up to and I really don’t think you get feminism – especially since you’re making so many sexist generalizations about men, something feminists also fight against from time to time.

  • Jesse

    You pointed out his color sense by comparing his hard work to another artist.

    You called his animation cute and then called his film misogynistic.

    I hope your “student animation fest” winners don’t have to go through the same kind of ridiculous scrutiny. It’s certainly discouraging.

  • Seamore Friedman the 3rd

    So many compliments! Don’t be so overwhelmingly positive Amid, it doesn’t suit you. Your criticism is definitely more productive than the film that Kris designed and animated by himself.

    keep up the good work!

  • Hal

    I hope everyone’s work goes through this kind of scrutiny, especially students. If my professors weren’t hard-asses and forced me to confront my own work I’d never have developed either the ability to mature nor the arrogant, stubborn ego to stand by my convictions in the face of an audience. If “artists” out there can’t handle the heat, don’t make films. If anything, I think Amid softened his blows to play nice to a student filmmaker (a luxury anyone industry rarely gets on this site).

  • Thomas Hatch

    I live on a boat!

  • No nerve touched S! (Susie? Sacajawea? SourKraut?)
    Just thought you were getting awful familiar with out so much as buying me a cup of coffee! I’m sure you were raised better than that!
    The only thing I say for women is let them speak for themselves.
    It is you guys who are getting all hot and bothered on their behalf over a few jokes.
    I’m not generalizing, I’m speaking from experience.
    Most guys don’t really believe what they are shoveling when they speak for women. To the ones that do, hey great. Go protest that film for a couple of harmless jokes. Have fun stamping out fun!
    I’m sure there is a lot I need to see. I’m wise enough to know I don’t know it all. I wonder if you are as well. There are a lot of things you need to see as well.
    Bet you’ve never seen a donkey show.
    Have you? Huh?
    I rest my case.

  • diego

    Its a great short. I usually support your agressive opinions Amid, but this time I can’t.


    I think there’s immaturity in judging this short film that way, and I hope Kris there doesn’t gets traumatized for being treated as a misogynist on Cartoon Brew.

    There’s too much fear of being offensive in your country, an obsession with being politically correct.

    I can laugh watching an absolutely feminist cartoon as I can laugh at an absolutely misogynist cartoon (and this one wasn’t really that misogyinist).

    There’s something funny in the fears and prejudices that the different sexes feel for each other and it’s normal for cartoons to show that.

  • FP

    If this film had been posted with a comment saying “Hey here’s a neat new student project” the thread would have gotten five comments and sunk without a trace. By snottily invoking Miss Goggle-Knees, a large response was generated. Mission accomplished?

    I liked the cartoon okay. Some of the bear takes in the office were really funny. How do you animate in Photoshop? I have to go into After Effects to make stuff move. I enjoyed the 5fps pixellated look. Reminded me of the DOS days of Animator Pro or Amiga Dpaint anims.

  • purin

    Oh, my GOD that chair short was scary. I don’t want a chair with arms. Ever. That is the stuff of nightmares. O_O What was the inspiration, might I ask? I hope nothing real at work…

    Actually, I think Kris Anka can take heart in knowing most of the argument was really over the idea of calling a student film misogynist. Looking over the comments and getting rid of the ones with ad hominem attacks and accusations that people are getting bent out of shape, there were a bunch of people who politely disagreed, some who agreed, some who partially agreed, and some who talked about the caricatures in the context of the industry and society. It looks like, regardless, a lot of people liked it anyway.

  • Rickadick

    Kris isn’t misogynistic

  • Brenda

    I found the film randomly entertaining and delightful.

    As for THAT comment, i’ll just say that i don’t think the animator even inteded to be misogynistic. In other point, i think it’s pretty rude to call “immature” someone you don’t even know. And even if you did, you should avoid getting involved personality and work of the person in question.

  • Jesse

    Nicely done, Kris. Beautifully colored and designed. Nice animation as well.

    Don’t take Amid’s criticism to heart. It’s a great student film. He’s just trying to help you as a storyteller so you’re work only gets better. ;-)


    Kris….( I like your name by the way..even the spelling).
    Kris, Your film is really nice. It actually made me smile.
    Any film that can have a great message and manage to stick in Eddie money and “Europe’s” cherokee definitely is a film with guts.

    Nice little film, pretty stylings too. Just need to do some editing..maybe on the beginning turmoils and drudgery to make it get to its point quicker.
    But all in all…nice.

    The whole “misogyny and feminists” nonsense…
    The thing I hate most is political correctness. It’s a cancer.
    To be clear, there really is no such thing as modern day ‘feminism’.
    In fact, the ones who tout it the loudest also do it the most harm- being that the cry is so loud for respect, yet its done with nothing but the shrillest of whining and bitching.
    Modern day ‘feminism’ takes its strength from those ‘men’ who are so wanting a date that they would lower themselves to such a degree where they are content with the heel of a whiner on their own necks.
    Which makes me think of the silver lining..
    that there is even hope for mullet haired women and spineless, neutered metro sexual ‘men’. Ahhh feminist luv.

    “””And I’ve NEVER met a feminist gay man. Nor have I seen a unicorn.”””

    That line made me laugh out loud. You sound like someone I could have coffee with sometime,… ‘John S’.

  • Andrew Kieswetter

    Great. I really liked the bear. Kudos to everyone involved!

  • Jeff Lebowski

    I’ve watched it three times. Awesome job! Great expressions and timing and the style is beautiful. My favorite part is the bear trying to get some coffee.

    As for the “controversy”, I like Amid and the fact that he has opinions, but I totally disagree that this film has “glaring misogyny.” Amid, when something is glaring, it blinds you from seeing anything else. But, let’s just say for a minute that you do honestly find the misogyny to be glaring. OK, so what if you had stumbled upon a film that had “glaring racism” or “glaring homophobia”? Would you still post it and say that those things shouldn’t “outweigh the film’s positive points?” I don’t think so.

    But that’s just like… my opinion, man.

  • CartoonLady

    “Nothing but the shrillest of whining and bitching”– are these words you would use for a male who would be voicing sincere protest about an important issue? I don’t want to pull out the same tired statistics, but women still have it harder than men. Maybe not as much in the upper-middle-class segment from which most of the animation community springs, but for the rest of the world, the gaps are huge.

    Raving about “political correctness” is just a way to take away peoples’ voices, to tell them that their problems are not important.

    This isn’t about changing the spelling of “woman” or something superfluous like that; it’s about thinking about women as human beings with thoughts and motivations as complex as a men’s. It’s about the little girl who utterly resents she was female and dreams of how much easier and more fun it would be to be a boy. It’s about being heard and not ignored. Most of my concerns, as a woman, have literally nothing to do with being female, or makeup, or clothing, or finding twu wuv, or any other crap we normally become equated with, but you’d never know it based on the typical animated produced for general audiences (or live action, for that matter, but that’s beside the point).

    Another note: I know a feminist gay man. I work my day job with him. Even if I didn’t know him, why would it be okay to not care about equality? (I mean genuine equality, don’t believe those fake feminists who use a sick, false form of feminism as an excuse to get special treatment and be unkind with impunity. Don’t let the exception form your rules. I know they’re loud, but they do not speak for most feminists, or women in general.)

    I’m not just trying to be a downer, here, but I’m just saying: please, have compassion. Your fellow cartoonists are not out to bum you out or inconvenience you. We just don’t like being treated like crap for the crime of being female. Being nice to a woman is important, but when your job is to produce cultural artifacts, you need to understand that you’re perpetuating images. It’s easy for people to understand that a bear in an office is absurd, but how easy is it for people to understand that hating a woman is absurd, when it’s clear that the audience is given real reason to hate the wife? It’s not presented in the same way, and you know it.

  • James

    All of this hooplah makes me want to make something terribly, terribly offensive.

    As for Amid, either his observations have been abraded by constant viewing of student films (and who wouldn’t be a little frazzled by that?), or he’s had some sort of tragic accident and had to have his sense of humour removed for medical reasons.

  • Hal

    Hey John S. – try a little harder to be overreaching and stupid.
    Amid may be a fire and brimstone pulpit kind of reviewer, and I usually devote 75% of my posts giving him $#!%, but he posts more awesome shorts than most animation sites and I kid and rip on him because I know he can be better than his current case of “animation blue balls.” These comments are usual immature animator ignorant “I’M SO POLITICALLY INCORRECT” pandering. God forbid an animator has to think about content…
    I still wish Amid had not backed down on his honest reaction and played nice with this kid. Just the facts – what he liked, what he didn’t – would have made this the kind of post I come here often to read. I love opinions and opinionated critics, I just hate badly written and meandering theses (and minotaurs).
    Equally tired of animators getting a pass when live action filmmakers with similar content get raked over the coals – just because its “more work” to do animation and it “looks good.”
    We may be an anal retentive lot with the focused OCD to revise image after image until the timing and movement is like a finely honed katana that cuts your eyes like a hot… katana… through butter… or an eyeball… but that’s no excuse to go easy on content. Especially when most animators are content to do “cute” content instead of turning their loaded guns to their heads and risk taking the bullet.
    Having said that, its a good student film and I’m glad Amid posted it.

  • Hal

    I’d rather have consciously prudish, conservative and misogynistic filmmakers than idiots who do these things inadvertently being “cute” or “cool.” You know where the former stand, even if you don’t like it, and I can respect that if the film is a singular vision. The latter are just idiots adding to the pile of this industry’s rubbish.

  • Hey Hal. That is quite a post there. After going out of your way to attempt to insult me, you babble and rant about so many things that I wonder if there are actually 2 of you. Or maybe 3. Seriously, the lady that lives at the bus stop at Glen Oaks and Alameda makes more sense than you.
    After ranting for a while about katanas and butter and eyeballs, you then say this:
    “I’d rather have consciously prudish, conservative and misogynistic filmmakers than idiots who do these things inadvertently being “cute” or “cool.” You know where the former stand, even if you don’t like it, and I can respect that if the film is a singular vision. The latter are just idiots adding to the pile of this industry’s rubbish.”

    Wow man. I guess you know from overreaching and stupid.
    With all that is going on in your head, it is a wonder that you can focus long enough to produce the work on that INCREDIBLE animation reel!
    I applaud you, Hal. Clap clap.

  • Thomas

    Are you f-ing kidding me?!?! misogyny?!?! that’s pathetic. grow up amid, it’s a cartoon, a caricature of reality. maybe you like cute cartoons about little kids kissing their grandmothers but i’m sorry, MISOGYNY IS FUNNY! when did the world become so conservative, so sensitive?!?

  • Jenny

    I applaud Amid for being honest and speaking out about what he dislikes. The rest of you: for fuck’s sake bone up on feminist and queer theory.

  • Katelyn&Melissa

    I read somewhere that their periods attract bears. The bears can smell the menstruation.

  • Philboyd Studge

    Excellent work, Mr. Anka.

    Amid, if you want a woman’s view of things, you might want to watch films made by women. Cal Arts has a pile of them.

    If you watch a film by a man, there’s a pretty good chance you’re going to see a man’s view, no?

    Again, top notch work!

  • “Bone up” on queer theory?
    That joke writes itself.
    Is there a UCLA extention course for that?

  • Hal

    Now see, if you’d going straight to the point John S instead of ramblin’ on I’d have been impressed. But you keep climbing to the top of the mountain and its garbage. I like you, even if you didn’t pick up on the Bunuel reference while you were breaking down my post.

  • Hal

    BTW, thanks! I really like my animation reel too!

  • Hal

    Got any links to your animation work John S?

  • Hal

    Oh sh!T! I’m in a blog-troll smackdown fest with a Pixar dude! Nice! Want to have an animation-off or do you just like to passive-aggressively talk crap about other animators? Seriously, I’d be down. Bet I can hold my own with you gunslinger. Clint Eastwood style.
    A DAIRY TALE was awesome dude.

  • Thomas Hatch

    Stop talking to yourself!

  • Wow! 4 posts! You must have been so angry you were spinning!
    S’matter? I struck a nerve? You were so mad you failed to make a contrived, self-conscious reference to a surrealist filmmaker in order to appear sophisticated.
    Look son, you took an unprovoked shot at me, so I shot back. That’s the name of the game, Toodles.
    Oh, and since you obviously dialed up my imdb page to fuel your little rant, you now know that I’m not an animator, but a story artist, writer and one (or 2 depending how you see it) time director, so I can’t really engage in your little contest.
    However I did laugh out loud (or LOL as you kids put it) at the idea of an animation show down! AHAHAHAHAHAHAH! That’s just..I don’t know man, so precious. That sounds lamer than that pose battle in Zoolander. That’s why you had to use “gangsta” lingo and even reference Clint Eastwood to make yourself sound hard!
    Thanks for the laugh kid! You have a nice weekend!
    Be sure to call your Mother on Sunday!

  • Hal

    Sure you hit a nerve – I look down on anyone who contributes nothing of value in a conversation but likes to bully people. You’re a troll and my comment was far from unprovoked – your track record in the comments pointed to an insecure bullying attitude and you should be better than the worst of your detractors. The fact you couldn’t resist bringing my work into the argument when it was only about comments on a blog and attitude towards animation proved you are a coward who would rather hide behind a snarky comment than say anything of substance “gramps.” If you had balls, you’d have outright said what you thought of my reel. Instead you maintain the great tradition of being a condescending prick. I, too, applaud the way you continue to lower the bar.
    Don’t worry, there’s room enough for both our egos in this industry and for the record, your Wiki page has GOT to be updated.

  • Hal

    Oh, and Kris (if you’re still bothering to read this far) – I apologize for both John and my pathetic examples of animation form – good show on the film, can’t wait to see what you do next! Did you really draw it all in Photoshop or did you simply paint it there?

  • Bully? Horsehit.
    I’m only a bully if you can’t handle what I have to say, which isn’t that harsh.
    I didn’t say anything bad about your work. There is some nice stuff there. I am amazed that such a scattered mind can produce work of such quality. Are you really THAT insecure?
    If you don’t find what I have to say valid, that’s fine. The feeling is mutual. You babble on and on with out adding anything but noise.
    YOu are a funny man, Hal. So easy to stir up.
    I do take issue with someone calling me a coward. I sign my name to my posts, which makes me anything but a coward. Anything I say to you here I would be more than happy to say to you in person.
    I have a Wiki page? Really?
    Actually, I’m aware of my Wiki entry, but have no idea how to update it. Someone else is in charge. Go write them about it if you are so concerned. Maybe they’ll start one for you too.
    Oh, and Kris? Your film is awesome. You will have a brilliant career.
    I apologize for Hal’s ridiculous histrionics and in my part for stoking them.
    Go take a nap Hal, calm down. Have some tea.
    Don’t take the internet so seriously.

  • To change the subject and lighten the mood:


    (Laura Mulvey is a film theorist who writes about phallocentrism and cinematography)

  • p.s. good film! Kris, keep on keeping on.

  • What is the name of the song that’s playing in the office when the main character is looking out at his coworkers, having a good time?

    It’s not in the credits…

  • I’m just going to point out that to bring gender issues up in regards to this film seems really silly when you can’t even really put a gender on one of the two main characters. And that if gender was automatically assigned to the bear without any cues, then it’s not fair to bring the film maker’s interpretation of gender roles into question without first examining one’s own.