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South Park backlash inspires Everybody Draw Mohammed Day

As most of you know by now, last week’s episode of South Park was censored by Comedy Central over fears the show might stoke violent retribution by radical Muslims.

Now it has inspired an artists’ movement — a national Everybody Draw Mohammed Day. Molly Norris, the cartoonist who started it, says she wants no part of the May 20 event, which is gaining momentum online.

“I made a cartoon that went viral but [this campaign] isn’t really my thing,” cartoonist Molly Norris told Comic Riffs, characterizing her cartoon as merely a personal response to Comedy Central’s censorship of a “South Park” episode last week. “Other folks have taken it over” — an appropriation she says she is distancing herself from.

Eight thousand people have already joined the Facebook page. Other media, including The Daily Show and The Simpsons (image above from Sunday night’s episode), have publicly supported South Park‘s right to parody. It’ll be interesting to see where this all leads.

  • OtherDan

    Stupid. What’s the point in pissing off a whole lot of people for no good reason? It has more to do with respect than free speech.

  • I will not be doing this. Those people are not for free speech, they are for hating on another culture for dumb reasons.

  • Personally, I think this day is a great idea. And yet it scares the bejesus out of me. Actually, I think it’s a great idea because it scares the bejesus out of me.

    Regardless of what religion it is, it is absolutely wrong that we should be made so afraid to mention them. Or even mock them. That people should be threatened with death, even having people (like filmmakers) murdered, is abhorrent.

    And yet I find myself wondering if I’d even be too afraid to partake. How wrong is that? The thing that extremist Muslims need to realise is that they are making themselves the enemy, and there are plenty of people who will benefit from having a villain – someone to be feared. People who will only fuel that fire. And, when afraid, people eventually push back and push back hard. This won’t do any of us any good. It certainly won’t do your everyday Muslim any good.

    Draw Mohammed? Have I the balls? I don’t know. Maybe I’ll just go make yet another children’s show about pigs…

  • If it weren’t on Facebook, I’d join in. Personally I find Facebook’s way of dealing with user data a bit more frightening than any islamist hothead – after all, those are just a few.

    Anyway, here’s my take:

  • Kristjan

    This is the only thing I wouldn’t dear to mock. Given all the trouble we have had with middle east in the past.

  • Anonymous

    Hopefully this doesn’t go the way of Denmark, but I can see how this could easily backfire. While South Park depicted the Prophet as a regular guy, some of the artists here could potentially get just downright crude in what they make.

  • Jay Taylor

    I support it, and don’t support it at the same time. Couldn’t we just arrest these radical muslims making threats? I know they say it isn’t a threat, but they posted Matt and Trey’s addresses. Pretty sure that counts as a threat.

  • It will be easy for thousands of amateur or independent cartoonists to anonymously submit their own version of the holy figure through Facebook of all places… but how many of them will publish their cartoons on their own web page, or animate their own indie film and publish it to a video-sharing website, or submit it to a film festival even?

  • Jim

    Here’s a pretty insightful angle on this subject:

  • anonymous

    the very fact that i have to post as ‘anonymous’ speaks volumes in and of itself. the Islamic religion doesnt only suggests, but in some cases DEMANDS that lives be taken in response to certain affronts to their prophet. i dont believe that Islam is a ‘peaceful’ religion. i dont believe Muhammad was a prophet. and i dont believe the quran has anything to do with God. according to the quran, if i dont convert, that alone entitles me to a big fat beheading. in the end, this ‘draw Muhammad’ movement will anger more people than it will make them think. the ‘dont draw Muhammad’ rule is pretty stupid. but its pretty important to practicing Muslims. so important that they probably would not just get a little peeved. their holy book requires them to take more drastic action in these circumstances. i’m not saying ‘dont do it cuz they’re scary!’ i just think people ought to comprehend the actual circumstances involved.

  • There was a message in of the episodes of South Park that said there’s a difference between ‘respect’ and ‘toleratance’. Noone has the right to have all of their beliefs be respected. The idea that not only can’t they draw something but that we can’t either is dangerous, and threatens free speech. If they can use fear to intimidate us and we in turn don’t act, but label it ‘respect’ then all our other values are in danger too.
    What this campaign is doing is watering down the number of individual targets. I will be drawing Mohammed on May 20th, my second name is Green and I live in Vancouver.

  • You would think that Comedy Central would alert the FBI or some other law enforcement agency to the threats made against Trey and Matt. At the very least the guy who posted the threats should expect to have a friendly chat with the Feds.

  • Although we have rights simply by virtue of being persons, we have the ability to exercise those rights only because some people laid down their lives to wrest that power from those who would deny it to us.

    The point is not “pissing off a whole lot of people”, nor is it done for “no good reason”. The point is to tell everyone, including but not restricted to Muslims, that their claims for respect to not legitimately extend to a right to use violence to prevent the expression of thoughts that they find abhorrent simply because they find them abhorrent or simply because they find them insulting.

    I’m sorry that Molly Norris has capitulated. I will not.

  • Sara H.

    What an amazing idea! I joined and invited all my artist friends. You can bet I will be participating in a very memorable way too. I think I will dedicate my entry to all the little girls who have been, and are still, genitally mutilated in the most appalling ways because of Islam.

    I will not be intimidated on my own land by and oppressive cult.
    Bring it the F#^K on!!

  • Rat

    All religions try and require that even non-adherents follow their religious rules.

    Everywhere a religion has power, it tries to enforce its inside-baseball rules to apply to everyone.

    Against drinking on Sunday? Fine, don’t drink. But don’t use your religious political power to close the Liquor stores.

    Gay marriage. Abortion rights. Women covering their face.

    Whatever it is, the religious people in power don’t ever seem to get that their inside-baseball rules only apply to those *in their religion*.

    I mean, can a brother kiss another man in Salt Lake City, PLEASE?!?!

    If this wasn’t about religion, we wouldn’t be having this argument. Think about the unwarranted respect religion demands, sometimes at gunpoint.

    South Park has made fun of all religions but one. Isn’t that interesting?

  • Ashley May

    “I will not be doing this. Those people are not for free speech, they are for hating on another culture for dumb reasons.”

    No, I’m pretty sure they are for not allowing threats of violence to restrict art.

  • Want to participate but fear retribution?
    Here’s a solution… draw Muhammad Ali.

  • Scarabim

    I totally support this. Let the artists get as disrespectful as they like. Because that disrespect has been honestly earned, and deserves its reward.

  • Rick

    That xoverboard post is actually very telling to me.

    “That so many people who scoffed at the ridiculous “we can’t let the terrorists win” mantras of 2001 now feel the same way in insisting that posting images of Mohammed to “stick it to the terrorists” or whatever is depressing. It’s not a hit against the terrorists. In fact, it probably just insults a lot of other Muslims who aren’t terrorists, and adds more fuel to a fire that is stoked for… for what, actually?”

    You mean, as in, the way the very same man feels obligated to insult the Pope in the post posted just before that one? I am a Southern Protestant, been one all my life. The whole pederast scandal was because the Catholics were ashamed of what happened and didn’t know how to handle it, not that they were pleased with or were hoping to promote it. But that doesn’t stop the media almost everyday having a “Draw the Pope/Church as a Haven for Disgusting Predators day.”

    As the post said, it “adds more fuel to a fire that is stoked for… for what, actually?” To make people distrust religion on the whole because it’s not longer trendy to be an artist and have faith or show respect for Christianity?

    Having respect doesn’t mean Parker, Stone, Groening, et al must believe in Christianity, but it would be nice if they could stop acting as sworn enemies to faith. Just sayin’.

  • Mark

    ” will not be doing this. Those people are not for free speech, they are for hating on another culture for dumb reasons.”

    Just like ALL religions. Especially fundamentalist “christians.”

  • Casper the friendly executive.

    I feel really ambigeous about this one. The aging punk side of me instantly found the idea very funny and the safety in numbers/solidarity aspect of it attractive. But I also love the honesty of the Simpsons board gag. We are scared. They do come and get you sometimes and they really don’t have a sense of humour.

    Or the other hand, as other posters have pointed out, there is a case for simply showing good manners. Depicting the prophet is grossly offensive to all Muslims, not just the 1% of them who are radical nutters, and what have most of them ever done to me that I should try to hurt them? All it’ll do is push more people into the influence of the extremists who are trying to take over their faith. It’ll prove that we hate them and what they believe… and the bad guys will love that. Wiser cartoons would attack those people instead and perhaps make Muslims laugh at them too.

    Also, whilst South Park seem to have shown some intelligence in how they tackled him, others are just going to draw him with a cock in his mouth (sorry, but that images is already circulating and it’s crap.) Sometimes it’s wise to choose your allies and I don’t want to line up beside the cock guy.

    On the other hand ten thousand genuinely funny Mohammeds would be amazing!

  • Kyle

    The “radical” muslim group that started this whole controversy is a one-man operation run by a jew living in queens. helps to know your facts and when you’re being played. more info here:

  • Anon

    I like the idea, but there’s a lot of racist and anti-Muslim ranting on the site that’s putting me off. I know the point is free expression, but countering stereotypes with stereotypes isn’t the way to solve this. I’ll be participating, but I do not hate Islam or think it’s evil.

  • Peter F

    Another clever marketing coup and ratings stunt by Viacom!

  • I’m a muslim and here is my opinion

    It’s really frustrated of people in the states being so ignorant with international issues!! It’s funny how no one mentioned the incident of the cartoonist who drew Muhamad in Denmark two years ago, it created a huge fuzz all around the globe and not because of terrorist threats -that seems like only Americans have toward Muslims- -France forbid hijab in schools without giving a crap about the “Muslim radicals” and so on- but how Muslims all around the world reacted toward the cartoons was by boycotting all dutch products that created a huge financial issue to the Denmark which actually made the the cartoonist apologize officially to the Muslim nation and brought things back to normal so the American STILL can’t see the the whole matter is a money issue and the the fact that American capitalists don’t want to disturb the green giant consummation of American fast food
    I hope you don’t forget that who censored the episode and spread rumors about threats was Americans not Muslims – In my opinion and I could be wrong or right-

    I am an artist and I’m with freedom of speech but when I checked out the facebook page it was pretty much pull of hatred massages toward Islam religion or religions itself and so on so People are getting really confused

  • Nick

    Why not draw a really cool and respectful Illustration directly from the Quran?

    That way you can cheese off both religious fundamentalist and atheist fundamentalists!

    (While everybody else just gets a nice piece of artwork to appreciate.)

  • “Those people are not for free speech, they are for hating on another culture for dumb reasons.”

    This can be applied to either side.

    Drawing their prophet is an insult to them. Then don’t do it. Why should they respect us if we don’t respect them? Like it was mentioned, drawing him is not a single retribution to “terrorists”, but an insult to their faith in general.

    Death threats should not be tolerated and the lack of tolerance among many believe systems is disturbing, but the reaction to those threats is not exactly civilized either.

    The people who threatened and released the address of Stone and Parker should face the consequences, that’s it.

    The whole free speech, free country, parody rights and whatnot thing is also being abused ad nauseam. As much as the hidden lessons in South Park are funny and true, don’t act suprised if you insult people and they react to it.

    Just because you can do something doesn’t mean you should.

  • George

    I am reading a the argument of “you’re not just offending the radicals, you’re offending all Muslims”, which of course, is true. However, couldn’t Jesus cursing, and going out on the town for drinks with his “Pop” only to flee the seen after Dad accidentally ignites a woman, be offensive to all Christians?

    There are a whole lot of educated and seemingly well thought out arguments and opinions here, and elsewhere on this issue, it’s good to see people really think this through and discuss. However, the fact remains, why should anyone be scared to draw (and for that matter “say”) anything? Insinuating or outright displaying hatred is deplorable, if one wanted to draw Muhammad, it doesn’t need to a social or political commentary. On the other hand, if it were, there shouldn’t be anything wrong with that either.

    There are radicals in EVERY facet of life, we all know this because they’re loud, they’re front-faced, they’re brash. These radicals, regardless of what they’re about, are not the majority. Radicals shouldn’t control the IDEALS, OPINIONS, or DECISIONS of the majority. How does that point wrap around this issue? Draw Muhammad with a bit of education, a bit of rationality, and an appreciation for the majority behind it. Don’t let radicals influence how you view or think of something.

  • Coward

    In that same episode of South Park, Buddha was snorting coke and Jesus had a porn addiction. Mohammed on the other hand did nothing out of the ordinary or even spoke a word. Sure, its offensive, but I believe Islam is stronger than death threats when it comes to being offended.

    When South Park showed Mohammed in July 2001, there wasn’t a peep!

  • Rat

    Did you hear the one about the radical atheist who blew himself up because a cartoonist had a blank sheet of paper?

  • gd0

    No deities = no excuses.

    Ditch the mythology. Embrace science. Move forward.

  • Mike

    Drawing a picture of Muhammd as a horse’s ass would be nothing more than a deliberate insult, but strict Muslims object to any image of the prophet as a real person, so it is more “blasphemous” to depict him as an ordinary 7th century Arab merchant.

    When religious fanatics demand that you show special sensitivity to their hangups they eventually up the ante, forcing you to kow-tow more and more to their insular head trips. That’s why it is important to tease them playfully, to remind them that the world doesn’t revolve around their beliefs.

    They can’t kill all of us, and when the world is flooded with pictures of Muhammad they’ll get used to it.

  • The world needs to be tolerant and free of extremist, but this isn’t the way to change people’s minds or educate them. Personally I don’t care because I think all religions are of bs posturing, but this action will have recourse.

  • Jonah

    Yay! People draw stuff to create the illusion of doing something useful! Art never did or will change the world. Grow up and work to become a decent person instead. Set an example to those you don’t agree with.

  • South Park was bashing America’s consistent censoring and lack of freedom of speech. Bashing one’s religion for no other purpose but to piss people off is sickening. Big difference between poking fun and BASHING. Matt and Trey do the whole extreme commentary correctly — anyone who tries to emulate them is going to fall flat on their face.

    Just because I’m an atheist doesn’t mean I can’t respect the beliefs of others. One of my best friends is a Methodist and a very good friend of mine was Islamic. The drawing day is mean. If a religion strictly FORBIDS cartoons of the sort (mockery anyway), we should show our respect.

    P.S. @Rat – Very funny. :)

  • This hasn’t really been about respect. It has been about fear and that rarely comes with respect.

  • olive

    I pointed this out somehwere else and i think I will do the same here:

    I will be convinced that this is about free speech when the, ehem, “artists,” at Comedy Central start lampooning the Holocaust. Of course, this will not happen since offending establishment positions on the Holocaust can get you fired in th US and a prison sentence in Europe. Here is a small taste of these delicious double standards:

    Glen Greenwald also has a good article on this South Park controversy, by the way.

    P.S Please don’t start with the argument “but south park makes fun of Judiasm and Christianity.” The point is not about religion, per say. Its about attacking peoples identity. Most Jews are very secular, so they don’t care all that much if you make fun of Moses (upon him be peace). However, most Jews DO care about the Holocaust, since they consider an attack on the Holocaust an attack on their identity.

  • There’s an irony about this and the comments about it here that is kind of amusing me. On the one hand, you have people fighting for their perceived right to represent other people’s religion. On the other, you have pretty much the same set of people fighting to curtail other people’s right to represent their own religion. Somehow “freedom of religion” became me making stupid drawings of Muhammed deliberately to offend Muslims but not being allowed to make reverent drawings of Jesus because their mere existence happens to offend Atheists.

  • You know what would actually make sense?
    A day where everyone draws images of the leaders of Revolution Muslim, the group which threatened South Park, in various uncompromising positions. That way, you exercise your right to offend the aggressive party directly, without offending other Muslims.

    There, now did I just solve the Middle East crisis or what?

  • robiscus

    I love watching the bleeding heart liberals twist and turn because they have to invert their thinking on this. The fundamentalist Islamist mindset is not something we should protect. Its not something we should value. It is evil stuff folks. Intolerant and violent.

    Are we afraid of pissing off nazi skinheads when a production of “The Porducers” comes to town? No. Same difference.

    The same forces that are mad at South Park also support the ban of all music like the situation under the Taliban in Afghanistan and currently in Somalia. Fundamentalist Islamism(not the entire religion) is also against ANY drawing representing the human figure. You can’t appease these people. You can’t tip toe around their sensibilities. By their very nature they are against a civilization that has made concessions with modernity.

    But then, the true liberal mindset has worked so hard to ignore the ugly truth about Islamic terrorism with moral relativity and a victim complex that I might as well be speaking to my shadow.

    Regardless I hope this thing is big. i hope there are murals of Mohammed 35 stories high. Piss them off. Its our duty to demonstrate that we are all equal. Equal praise, equal criticism.

  • robiscus

    Olive, you fail to grasp the difference between attempts to hide/erase a historical fact and creating a simple image of a deity.

  • anonymous

    just add fuel to the fire, later dont blame other people for your problems

  • olive


    The common denominator here is that an attack on the Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) is an attack on Muslim identity. Likewise, many Jews see a questioning of the Holocaust, or even some parts of the Holocaust, as an attack on Jewish identity.

    By the way, the Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) is not considered to be a diety by Muslims.

  • Chaimyukel

    @ Kyle- even if it’s true that the guy who started this Jihad against South Park was born Jewish, (and your links are the ONLY place I read that which makes me wonder if it’s true) he’s still acting as a Muslim on behalf of what he considers “Islam”. That’s nothing new. Throughout history there have been Jews who converted to different religions and then acted against Jewish interests: Paul, Karl Marx and Leon Trotsky are a few famous examples but there are many more.

    The real issue here is that Moderate muslims have either not spoken out against Mr. Al Khattab or if they have, their voices have not been heard by the mainstream media.

    However, the way you bring it up makes it seem like you’re trying to shift blame from Radical Islam to “the Jews” and that doesn’t help anyone.

  • Chaimyukel

    @ Olive- I’d say the same to you that I sad to Kyle. The fact that you posted a link to that video makes it appear that you are also trying to shift blame to “The Jews”. Shame on you. This has absolutely nothing to do with the Holocaust. I have to wonder why you link denying a great historical tragedy with freedom of speech. You seem to take a vested interest in having the “right” to deny the Holocaust.

    You COULD argue that making fun of Mohammed is slanderous, the same as denying the Holocaust but that would be a huge stretch.

  • olive


    Are you sure you actually watched the video that I linked? Please watch it again (its not that long) and you will see that it is not blaming “the Jews” but , as someone else pointed out it, is critical of the fact that “if Islam is attacked, then freedom of speech is invoked to justify such attacks, but dare do the same with Judaism, for example, and you become an anti-Semite, are pressured to apologize and on and on and on. ”

    All I am doing is pointing out the blatant double standards.

    And yes, in my opinion, making fun of the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) is just as slanderous as denying or making fun of the Holocaust because in both cases the identity of the respective religious group is attacked.

    The only difference is that if you deny the Holocaust in Europe, you get a six and a half year prison sentence whereas if you attack and slander the the Prophet Muhammad ( peace and blessings be upon him), a man beloved and alive in the hearts of 2 billion people, you are made to be a champion of free speech.

  • Pedro Nakama

    I’ll draw a picture of Mohammed on May 20 but will Jerry post it on this blog?

  • Olive, please enjoy these clips of Comedy Central poking fun at the holocaust.

    As for “Draw Mohammed Day”, you can count me out. I just don’t see the point. The whole South Park thing isn’t about censorship. Comedy Central is a business and they can show whatever they damn please. The government never came down and forced them to censor anything. I don’t know why I would want to offend the millions of Muslims that aren’t terrorists just because I’m pissy that Comedy Central chose to practice their own freedom of speech.

  • robiscus

    Olive, we aren’t in Europe. We are in America and we make fun of everything and everyone, including Mohammed. The fact of the matter is that islam requires a double standard from the rest of the world. Anyone is free to practice any religion in our nation because it is free while Islamic nations prohibit any religion except Islam, and even have a death sentence for spreading another religion. The failure to make concessions with modernity is a recurring theme. Now, just drawing an image of Mohammed is a death sentence? No. Not here.

    Here is a picture I drew of Mohammed and Jesus in a hockey fight:

    Get bent.

  • Stephan

    South Park used the Holocaust as a joke loads of times. The main one that comes to mind is in the South Park movie where they open up a concetration camp for Canadians.

  • Kunstler

    Do any of you people have Muslim friends?
    Why don’t you just ask them what they think?


  • Or we could ask people who have sought to provoke thought about some issues in the past, like Theo Van Gogh… oh, no, too late.

  • Chaimyukel

    Yes I watched the whole video. It doesn’t make it’s point very well and neither do you. I reject the basic premise of your argument on it’s face.
    Denying the Holocaust is NOT AT ALL the same as criticizing or making fun of the Jewish religion. South Park makes fun of Jews and the Jewish religion ALL THE TIME! As do countless other TV shows, movies and comedians. Somehow the Jews can take it without threatening to kill anyone.

    Denying the Holocaust is offensive because it’s an attempt to deny history and replace a lie for the truth. It’s not offensive only to Jews because The Holocaust did not only happen to Jews. Ask any Gypsy, Homosexual or disabled person who lived through those times if they find Holocaust denial offensive. I guarantee you they will.

    Peace be upon you.

  • Casper the friendly executive.

    Right, I think I’ve chosen a side now. We should all draw cartoons about people who want to kill people because they draw cartoons. They are the real enemy.

  • Don’t worry olive. Before the Holocaust, it used to be fashionable to make fun of Jews too. The Holocaust kind of made the Western world feel guilty about that. Well, at least about being open about its anti-semitism.

    The latest fashionable group is Islam. Unfortunately, unlike Jews, Muslims fight back. This creates a kind of feedback loop where the bigots keep wanting to top the terrorists in order to prove what tough guys they are and what big testicles Americans have, and in response the terrorists threaten and actually kill more people. Then the bigots unzip and wave them around even more, and the terrorists unzip and wave them around even more. And on it goes.

    It took the Holocaust to get the West to stop picking on Jews. I don’t know where this one is going to stop.

  • Geez wiz people… Why get involved with something that has “proven” to offend religious lunatics and who constantly make death threats?!

    South Park and Family Guy are funny, but let’s leave these people alone, seriously!

  • Truth Martini

    To all the hypocritical cowards who say this is disrespectful: You guys have to be the most hypocritical cowards I have ever seen in my life. YOUR KIND goes around making fun of other religious groups and minorities (especially Asians from what I see in the media) but when it comes to Muslims OHHHHHHHH NO WE CAN’T MAKE FUN OF THEM CAUSE IT’S DISRESPECTFUL. What a load of crap. The only reason why we can’t make fun of muslims while everyone can make fun of other minorities and religons is simply because: They are scared that a bunch of crazy muslims are going to come here and suicide bomb them. So we can’t make fun of them but we can make fun of other countries, people, races, and religons because they aren’t muslims. All in the name of so called “Political Correctness”. What kind of screwed up logic is that? Making a HUGE racial INEQUALITY for the sake of “equality” and “political correctness.” All I’m seeing is a bunch of cowards afraid to go after a bunch of murdering scumbags but willing to make insults and racist comments towards other countries just because they don’t agree with how those countries are run even though they don’t go suicide bombing people. All of you cowards can go back to your muslim loving homes and let a bunch of murderers try to run your lives while I make a stand.

    Oh and yes I know the irony of posting a fake name: Because I know one of you idiots are going to try to report me to one of your murdering tyrant friends all in the name of “being respectful.” Have fun in your land of hypocracy and inequality!

  • gd0

    Quoting The Flea: “If a religion strictly FORBIDS cartoons of the sort (mockery anyway), we should show our respect.”

    Feel free to defer if you choose. For my part, no man-made religious authority or imagined deity has any sway over my thoughts or expressions. The only forbiddance that we can reasonably employ are those practical laws that make up any civilized society: those against assault, theft, fraud etc.

    I can easily ignore and tolerate an unscientific belief system if it minds its own business. But the hubris of any such system to impose its will on non-members, by way of threats and violence, and willingness to do so over centuries, begs criticism. Any revenue-collecting organization that directs its members to action based on mythology and superstition begs questioning, if not outright ridicule.

    And South Park does that well (even if I’m not a big fan).

    It’s the 21st century, fercryinoutloud.

  • Casper the friendly executive.

    Yes TRUTH martini, all my MURDERING tyrant friends who are MUSLIMS who I love know where YOU live now and don’t CARE. They aren’t remotely impressed WITH your CAPS KEY heavy rant. Most of the debate on here HAS been mature, considered AND interesting, far from the POLITICAL CORRECTNESS you see because that’s your own BLINKERED BELIEF system stopping your BrAiN from kicking IN!!! There’s lots of Musilm stuff we can make fun of, especially the bombing loonies, but this stunt is trying to offend ALL muslims everywhere and what’s the point of THAT!!!!!!!!!!!??????????????

  • Casper the friendly executive.

    Sorry, that was a bit immature!

  • Mik Cortez

    uuggh. I became an atheist for practical, scientific, and political reasons when I was a teenager, and I am loathe to join this discussion. But a quick scan of the facebook page for EDM Day and it’s easy to understand why Norris is removing herself from the event. Her cartoon was really cute and as I read it, a jab at censorship, not at religion. But it’s been taken up by all kinds of extremists with an axe to grind against people of the middle east. As I expected, the bigots are sharpening their pencils to spew their bile on the internet. I absolutely support the 1st amendment, not only for my right to say what I want and to inform whomever want to be. The 1st amendment also allows me to know what is going on in your twisted head. I can thus protect myself from you. I live in the SF bay area and know many muslims. Most of them are really humble people. Twice I’ve bought used cars from them and those were the best deals I ever got. So all of you with a rant against Islam, go ahead. Wrap yourselves in the mantle of Free Speech and make your racist drawings. Just don’t hide behind the cloak of internet invisibility. Let us see who you are, so we can avoid you.

  • Vzk

    This is going a bit off-topic, and I don’t have anything against the Jewish people, but why is the Holocaust so important yet almost no one says anything about the Armenian Genocide, the Rape of Nanking, the millions killed by communist dictators, the massacre of Native Americans (not just in the US), etc. And why are Jews the only group of people worth mentioning when talking about the Holocaust (where are the Gypsies, Poles, gays, handicapped, etc?)

    As for Muslims and Muhammad, remember when the Looney Tunes and Disney made fun of the Nazis and Hirohito’s Japan? That was a time when animators didn’t care about offending anyone, and making fun of the bad guys, rather than making us scared of them, helped in their defeat.

  • Vzk, there’s a valid point there. There were whole nations forgotten in WW2, left under Stalin (who killed more people than Hitler and had masses of people dying in gulags) and forgotten in spite of an Atlantic Treaty that said no nation would be left occupied. Those people and what they went through are rarely ever mentioned and there were no Nuremberg Trials there. There are no end of atrocities that are rarely talked about – Japanese Unit 731, whose perpetrators went on to have good positions in Japan after the war while the crime was swept under the carpet in return for the research. Nanking, as you mentioned. So many more. Victims who don’t have a voice.

    But none of that in any way should minimise or take away from the atrocity and cold, clinical genocide of the Holocaust. And I think it’s exceptionally important for it to be remembered and talked about so that it never ever happens again to Jews or anyone else.

    And it’s relevent here. The danger here is that a whole massive group of people become the enemy. In a way, that’s partly why I think this can be a good thing. It gets it all out in the open rather than having people afraid to even mention Islam while resentment builds and hatemongers on all sides fuel all sorts of fires in an attempt to gain power through fear.

  • Isn’t this all about a big social issue: “Islamic extremists can’t get along with everyone else.”

    Um so what? We’ve got the same problem in America with Christian extremists murdering abortion doctors and not being able to get along with anyone espousing non-literal interpretations of the Bible which support scientific discoveries.

    It’s one thing to not do something in order to be polite, it’s quite another to be threatened with death if you do it.

  • Nicholas

    Vzk, the fact that the Jews are mentioned so often is not their fault, they would gladly be left out of this discussion, for example, with which they have nothing to do. Olive brought them up comparing their objections to Holocaust denial with the Muslim objections against drawings of Mohammad. Olive is saying that the jews see Holocaust denial as an attack against their identity, similar to the muslims objections against drawing Mohammad. Olive, for the Jews the Holocaust has nothing to do with their identity and has everything to do with their safety. They simply fear that if it is forgotten or covered up it may happen again. To them or any other people. And they don’t object to making fun of it, just to denying that it happenned. And the maximim they would do is to file a complaint. Certainly not threaten to kill anybody.
    Saying that, about the drawing Mohammad campaign I see it as spitefull and immature. It would be a more meaningfull initiative to stand up against the extremism itself, instead of doing things to provoke it.

  • Arthur F

    The fact that South Park has shown – and still repeats – the episode of Super Friends with Mohammad as a depicted character earlier, before 9/11 makes the whole handling of this from Comedy Central’s side and from the “side” of this fool on a website, more of a farce, and surelynot a well-thought through corporate response. Which is important when thinking how really to react to it all in a world that is more complex than one wingnut’s website threats.

    Whatever the logic of Comedy Central was or is, the main argument SPark were making about the result is that CC can’t just do what they want to their work, their art. It has to at least be discussed with them, and if they as creators don’t back down, then obviously certain routes are there to be taken, and that’s what legal contracts and such are for. As I understood from reading the SPark side, the anger was also that no one informed them, CC just went ahead and broadcast it, including beeping out full dialogs where there are no references to Mohommad.
    So I think that is the bigger issue for SPark — that they weren’t even included in the discussion and final decision-making for their own work. I would defend SPark all the way on these points.

    About Islam and image representation, it isn’t at all the stupid reading these one-sided wingnuts give it, and history is luckily still allowed, so there are museums filled with items to disprove it, with eras where depictions exist for the Koran stories, and there is a rich history of representation through for example Minatures from Iran, and so on. Of course representation exists and flourished, was discussed in regards to their particular religious text as it was with the Bible too with our fair share of hair-shirts and anti-image rebels, and it isn’t so simple when politics comes in and uses religion as an enforcer, under the point of Mohammad being represented or anything else. The idea that any of the main religious books are not filled with interpretations of stories that can lead to extremely dark, unforgiving, revengeful, spiteful missives – the old testatment, please – is not sustainable. Nor are extremists in any form or religion, just spend some time researching what televangelists say about certain communities in our own country, and believe me, what religious “leaders” say in the name of their religions in their own countries, in their public speeches etc.. The more populist, the less it will fit to the complacent, nice dream you imagine – any religion – and the everpresent flow of quoted and taped material exists “thanks” internet.

    But that was lot of what SPark was trying to show as well.

    I just think in terms of the art and representational issues, a major corporate can’t operate at the level of simple answers to stupid people to the point of censoring an image and statements because of one wing-nut – one nevers win, it just spirals downwards into more reductive nonsense. I would ask, after 9/11 especially, where is the sign of this network’s planning (especially when it has satire, comedy and so on as its main vehicle) and thinking ahead, trying to make some rapport with different US communities and leaderships? It helps to have some thought about tactics to a response ahead of time to precisely lone or “representative” wingnuts and fools.

    And I really do love the Simpsons image on the one hand as a good riff on the situation right now, I really think it is spot-on to some degree, as also a vexed statement regarding the insularity here in the U.S. — imagine how silly that “scared” reads in relation to the scale of most of the rest of the world, let’s face it, many parts of which have had to get used (since long before 9/11) to the kinds of massive military hardware, maneuvers and collateral damages from our own weaponry which is second to none, and found as well in the hands of so many client countries as well as in our own, for whatever reasons. Seriously, being “scared” of a wingnut on a website — that’s ALL it takes? It sounds rather naive and when it comes to a corporate TELEVISION station, I tend to be skeptical.

    As for drawing campaign — I’m not a fan of popular competitions, it’s usually not going to rise to the occasion, but remind us of the problematic sides, and inevitably just get used by those people who want such material to shore up their divisiveness of “us” against “them”.

    It woud have been more funny, and satirical (remember that part) to go after designing a new flexible series of “censored” emblems and sounds for beeping over what will obviously continue to be a need to block out certain issues.

  • Vzk, to be fair, I’m not forgetting about them. My family were among the 15 million Germans ethnically cleansed by the Allies after the war ended, so it tends to be pretty front and centre. But as someone said, the Holocaust was brought up. And yes, the 5 million non-Jews who were also killed do matter.

    As for WWII propaganda, I don’t think that’s really the model you want to base things on.

    First of all, it is propaganda. It was meant to manipulate the public into supporting the war by demonizing the people of other races. They were, to a one, utterly racist caricatures.

    They also supported horrendous things. For example, in a contemporaneous Batman serial, there is a line of dialogue about how Japanese Americans have been rounded up and put into concentration camps by a “prudent and wise government” (followed by J. Carrol Naish’s Yellow Menace).

    And on top of it all, when I go back and watch those things now, they actually have the reverse effect. “Education for Death” is so over the top that one can’t help but react by absolving the Nazis a little just in the name of balance.

    Based on the pedigree, I can’t see how this “Deliberately Piss Off Muslims Day” will end up as anything other than racist propaganda for the American Right.

  • David Breneman

    Alright, it’s time for a real, gut-level, RANT!

    American liberals are all for the separation of church and state as long as the “church” is Christianity. Any other religion, no matter how backward and antisocial, gets a free pass. Why? Because mainstream Christians won’t gun you down on the street for teasing them. So it’s fine to pick on the civilized religions; but the tribal, non-reformed, violent religions are off limits. There’s no bravery in standing up to people who don’t give a damn what you say. There is bravery in standing up to malevolent, hate-mongering sociopaths. Ferchrissake (please don’t chop off my hands for typing that, Billy Graham!), who is going to stand up for enlightened western culture? Are Americans so wedded to the notion of political correctness what they will gladly accept the yoke of oppression offered by foreign despots? What a sorry bunch of bowing and scraping, sniveling cowards we have become.

    OK, I feel better now. Come and get me.

  • Cess

    It’s interesting reading the article as well as the comments here in. Everyone has an opinion on the subject, and each person does have some good points. I personally think that it is a little much to threaten and kill people, especially those who are not of the Muslim Faith, for a blasphemy that they personally do not believe in.

    All other religions suffer that same blasphemy where their religious symbols become used, mocked, and created for uses other than deemed by their faith so why should this one religion be exempt from freedom of speech? I read this one article on the TIME Magazine website that summed how I feel about the subject up much better than I could ever write it,9171,1156609,00.html

    Each person has a right to freedom of speech. But Islam claiming that it is a part of the faith to punish people for drawing the prophet is akin to someone now claiming they have the right to stone a person for any number of reasons stated within the Bible.

    I am not personally religious, but I do respect those who choose to have a faith. But we live in a civilized world with better ways to deal with ‘infidels’ than terror and death. It is an unrealistic demand in today’s world; many other religions have understood this and have adjusted as society evolves.

  • Vzk

    The reason Muslims react that way when Islam is attacked is because they seem to follow their religious book 100%; Christians only find relevant what’s convenient to them, and most Jews are secular, so they don’t care about anything in the Torah.

  • But do they really follow their book 100%, Vzk? From the whole cartoon contraversy a while back, I seem to remember it being said that nowhere in the Qur’an does it prohibit pictures of Mohammed. There is certainly no shortage of depictions of him in ancient art so it wasn’t a problem at some stage. The closest thing I remember being mentioned is something in the hadiths that prevent all paintings, and that doesn’t even mention Mohammed, it’s paintings of any animate object – I guess that makes many of our careers here a problem.

    Maybe a Muslim here can clarify this because I’m only going on memory on what was being said a few years ago.

  • olive

    Hi Bitter Animator,

    Here is an answer to your question about drawing animate beings. Its a fatwa by Shaykh Faraz Rabbani thats been around for a couple of years:

    In the name of Allah, the inspirer of truth. All praise is to Allah, Most Merciful and Compassionate, and all blessings and peace to our Master Muhammad, his family, companions, and those who follow them.

    What is strongly impermissible is to draw the entire human body with all its details, or the face and neck with all its details (except when necessary for immediate educational purposes and the like).

    As for drawing an outline of the human body, without detailed features, and labeling the various parts, or drawing the details of a particular part (such as the heart), this is permitted, and this is not disliked if for a reasonable purpose (such as education).

    It is mentioned in Imam ` Ala � al-Din al-Haskafi�s al-Durr al-Mukhtar that, among the types of pictures that are not prohibited to have are those that are

    (Small) such that the details of their limbs are not apparent to someone who looks down at them standing while they are on the ground, as Halabi mentioned, (or with their head or face cut off) or with an organ effaced out that the body cannot live without, (or of an inanimate object).�

    Ibn Abidin clarified in his supercommentary, Radd al-Muhtar,

    (His saying �with their head cut off) That is, whether it did not have a head in the first place, or it had one and it was effaced.� [Radd al-Muhtar` ala al-Durr al-Mukhtar, Babma yufsidal-salatwama yukrahufiha]

    And Allah knows best.

    Faraz Rabbani.
    And in another fatwa, he says about illustrating childrens books:

    According to reliable contemporary Hanafi scholars whom I have consulted–including Shaykh Hassaan al-Hindi of Damascus and Shaykh Qasim al-Ta’i of Baghdad–it is permitted to make cartoons and other drawings for children’s educational and recreational materials, basing it on the permission of making, buying, and giving dolls for children, which the Hanafi jurists have affirmed (e.g. in Ibn Abidin, Radd al-Muhtar).
    Hope that helps

  • I long for the day that offending Islam becomes as commonplace and childish as offending any other religion instead of a big deal.

    No one has the right to not be offended.

    I support “Draw Mohammed Day” wholeheartedly.

  • Pincushion12

    Wake up, people.

    This situation came about because we bowed down to the fear tactics and the intimidation of violence from a bunch of lunatic, extremist bullies whose goal is to do nothing but subjugate and dominate an entire country and it’s RIGHT to free expression over a petty disagreement of opinions and values.

    Their goal was to force us to censor ourselves, reduce our dignity to nothing, go back on everything that our proud country stood for and was founded on, such as the RIGHT of free and honest expression through ideas, not from violence or bulling, but merely an expression of a thought or an idea, which they disagreed with due to some extremely ignorant and worthlessly archaic and barbaric practice of fear, terrorism, and intimidation.

    If we are going to bow down and act like such gutless, weak-willed cowards at the expense of our own dignity, hey. Here’s a thought: Why don’t we just all get down on our hands and knees and apologize for “bringing the 9/11 attacks on ourselves”, right? RIGHT?

    I say no.

    Others may be content to bury their heads in the sand, or sell out their own dignity, but the ONLY way to counter this, is to proudly and honestly raise our hands and say “WE ARE NOT AFRAID YOU YOU.”

    If our forefathers who suffered for their freedom and risked far more than this today, could see us now, they would be utterly ashamed at what we’ve become. Gutless cowards who, as a nation bow down to the whims of terrorists over a drawing.

    And to that end, I wholeheartedly believe that every American should depict Mohammad in ANY WAY THEY SEE FIT. Draw Mohammad in a hotdog bun. Draw Mohammad wrapped up in a bow. Draw Mohammad in bed with a hooker. Draw Mohammad dressed up like a clown. Draw Mohammad on a pogo stick.

    The point here people, is that we MUST show that we will not give in to fear and intimidation, and not be pressured by the empty threats of ridiculous kooks and their archaic, and stupid demands which do not even APPLY TO US, nor should they EVER.

    That is the point. Or is it true? Are we all gutless cowards? Are we all afraid to stand up for our own selves when it applies to us and our way of living and the freedoms that we enjoy, to the point where we will willingly cut off our own toungues and bend over backwards to please our “terrorist buddies?”

    I say no.

    I say no.

    And I say no.

    Mohammad. Mohammad. Mohammad. And I say it once more. Mohammad. For I am not a weak willed, gutless coward, nor am I afraid. Even if the rest of this country IS.

    Everywhere I have a presence online, I have put up images of Mohammad as my avatar in response. And everywhere in my real life that I go, where it is applicable, or the conversation is relevant, I will mention my clear thoughts on this without ANY fear, anywhere.

    Extremist Muslims or anyone who does not like this can do what they will. But the ball is ENTIRELY IN THEIR COURT. I am merely standing up for what’s right and ONLy to say “I am not afraid of you.”

    I find it extremely disheartening and depressing that there isn’t more unity being shown over this. Because this is about more than what it seems like on the outside. This is a war of IDEALS about free speech. Violence should have NO PART in it.

    I won’t just draw Mohammad for a day. I will depict and talk about Mohammad AND this controversy wherever I see it talked about or discussed as long as it takes for free speech and the ideas of not bowing down to the whims of idiotic terrorism and archaic, barbaric crap that has NO PLACE in the 1st world of today.

    If they don’t like it, they can take their ball and go home or go crawl right back up their 3rd world selves for all I care. I agree in saying that “NO ONE HAS THE RIGHT TO NOT BE OFFENDED.”


  • Obo

    I support Mohammed Day as well.

    Either you respect all religions or no religions. As long as mocking Jesus, moses, Buddha, etc etc is allowed, than Mohammed is fair game.

  • Thanks for that, Olive. I appreciate you filling in some of the holes in my understanding. I seem to fall under the exemption about work for children, which is nice. I’m curious though as to how binding a fatwa like this is or indeed what the implications are of ‘strongly impermissable’? Does it depend on the standing of whoever issues the fatwa?

    So in terms of ancient Islamic art, would that very much be looked down on or disapproved of based on the hadiths and fatwas like this?

  • Nice that people are taking there cue from a dimwitted show like South Park.

    When did we forget how to respect each other?

    I don’t think respect is as objective as humor.


  • olive

    No problem Bitter Animator (you should probably change your name…you don’t sound all that bitter!)

    As for your question about the nature of fatwas, a fatwa merely means “a legal opinion”. You can follow it or you can ignore it. Muftis are religious scholars who are known to give fatwas. However, unless they are in some governmental judicial role, they can’t really enforce anything.

    As the saying goes, “A Mufti advises but a Qadi (an Islamic judge) enforces.”

    With that said, scholars like Faraz Rabbani are reliable and respeced by their collegues becuase of their deep knowledge of the traditional Islamic legal tradition and their authorization to teach Sacred Law from scholars who make up a chain that goes very, very far back. Thus Muslims who choose to ignore the fatwas of mainstream scholars (especially the unanimous fatwas) do so at their own risk (in the afterlife).

    As for Islamic art, it has remained aniconic in deference to the Sacred Law. However, there have been some exceptions, especially among the minor sects, like the Shia.

  • Casper the friendly executive.

    Why is it the people who ARE NOT AFRAID seem to have love CAPS and sound suspiciously similar? You’re so NOBLE and brave and then you say something like ‘crawl right back up their third world selves’ and you sound like a bigoted DICK.

    Thanks Olive for the calm, educational responses. I can now see how a word like Fatwa is widley misunderstood, even though I can never respect a small gang of old men of any religion checking the fine print of random ancient texts and dictating to the rest of us what God thinks

  • Kunstler

    Parker and Stone should just have done Mohammed as the Invisible Man. He shows up to some religious figure gathering (I didn’t see the episode.), but he’s all wrapped up in bandages like Claude Rains. When a security guard demands to see his face, he says, “See my face? Alright. HA HA HA HA HA!!!” and he unwraps. Take the whole scene right out of the 1933 film. Later, when an hors d’oeuvres mysteriously lifts off of Cartman’s plate, someone shouts, “It’s Mohammed, get him!” More maniacal laughter, a door bangs open, footprints appear leading off into the snow. Cartman stands in the doorway yelling at him.

    Makes fun of Mohammed, makes fun of Islamic law, makes fun of all the first-ammendment-says-I-can-therefore-I-must cartoonists and the whole controversy. Like tormenting a younger sibling by ALMOST touching them while saying, “I’m not touching you.”

    Yes, no?

  • Kunstler

    You could even have Cartman ask Stan why he’s invisible. Then Stan explains the controversy. Sort of a Bugs Bunny aside to the audience.

  • Kunstler

    “Why is he invisible?”

    “Cause if we show him on TV some crazy Islamic dudes are gonna bomb the #@*!% out of us.”

  • Thanks yet again Olive. I can see how that can work for those who choose to work under that system but I can’t help but agree with Casper, not in that it might be a problem that they are a gang of old men or even the ancient texts, but that there are some who would presume to tell those of us who don’t subscribe to it what we should or shouldn’t do. Or worse, seek to punish or incite violence towards us.

    That’s where it becomes a problem for me.

    Even though those people may well be very few in number, unfortunately, they have been quite vocal and certainly active enough to inspire fear in a great many people – as the Simpsons board shows! And I feel that fear eventually results in people pushing back. I think that’s what this Draw Mohammed day is.

    I’ll admit I’m not a religious man so the depth of what this means to the devout may well be beyond my comprehension. But, for me, if the systems and beliefs can stand up to scrutiny, can feel that certain and that right, they shouldn’t ever need threats to back them up. They are what they are. That’s just my own personal feeling – if I’m wrong, I hope it’s Allah or God himself who sorts me out in an afterlife, not a fallible mortal who takes it on himself to act on what he perceives to be the word of an almighty.

    And thanks again for taking the time to answer my questions. They’ve been really helpful and I really appreciate it. Yes, I’m bitter some times but, really, it’s because I think there’s no reason why we can’t all (as Bill and Ted put it) be excellent to one another. The bitterness just comes when I realise we’re not quite there yet.

  • Martin L

    I fully support respect among people. But if I had to choose my favourite principle, I’d go with non-violence!

    Here’s the thing:
    You could call my mother a reeking whore, a drinker of piss and a goat-lover.
    I’d be upset with you. Surely.

    But I would never threaten to hurt you for it.
    Nor would I voice support for someone else hurting you.
    By definition, doing either would make me unworthy of any respect.

  • David Breneman

    If you’d seen the episode, you’d see that the story line didn’t make fun of Mohammed. It made fun of the ban on showing him. That was the beauty of it. Any negative reaction to it (such as on the part of the network or the jihadists) just made them look silly and petty. I had assumed that the South Park producers had “bleeped” Mohammed’s name in the second part to draw attention to the web site that had threatened their death. In fact, the network did it out of timidity, because of that web site, and as a result it only made the joke funnier. When South Park is doing good social satire, it’s really, really good. As good (and complex) as Mark Twain, except for the potty humor. That’s cheap.

  • Casper the friendly executive.

    I respect Bitter Animator. Can we draw cartoons in supoort of his last post instead?

  • Aw thanks Casper. I’ll always support cartoons so that’s something I can definitely get behind.

  • Sands

    This isn’t about freedom of speech, this is just being childish and irresponsible.

    This isn’t freedom of speech, this is freedom of insult.

    More than 1 billion Muslim find these drawings deeply insulting, and hurtful, yet, those people keep the process going just for fun!.

    So, Now you draw and show Muhammad who has nothing to do with your life or culture and you might forget about the drawing the next day.

    The cost?

    Hate and anger in 20% of the world hearts and minds!

  • a muslim who loves her religon

    plz watch this video and see by ur own eyes the lies that fills ones heart for nothing…!/pages/Everybody-Draw-Mohammad-Day-May-20th-2010/120352401315688?ref=ts
    prophet Muhammad never ever hurt ed a person.. he was kind, leader that until now the west used to study his tactics in the army.. he was one of a kind.. and all that people who curse islam and say such cruel things on quran..they have to read it first from it’s origins and they will see greatly that it doesn’t say ever hurt or kill innocent people or be a terrorist but is people seeing a person that is defending his house from an intruder is a terrorist then i have to say these person r the ones who doesn’t get the picture… there is a versus in quran says that other who have their own religions and belief leave them,let them be what they r and we be what we are… ..God also informed our prophet not to force any person to join our islam,
    secondly, why when it comes to the Holocaust the freedom of speech turns to a prison for life!!! people the holocaust is not religion which in fact could be freedom of speech… i believe no religion must be made by fun drawings or insulting… u r the west… the civilized people as u claim, so where is it?! u must show us the undeveloped cultures the civilization and the respect… freedom= respect!!!!
    the surprise is that our beloved prophet told us to respect others and to eave people dont bother them…to love each other… not to hurt others feeling…to help the others…(all this is not my imaginary,if anyone interested then he have to read the whole quran to see it by their eyes from it!) could this person who advised us with love be a hatred man!!!?!!! la wallah he is Muhammad the prophet, who doesn’t need all of us to defend him… he is in Gods heart number one.. he is the person who we wish that he pry for us .. what muslims want from other just to respect .. i feel other people and muslims like football matches where two team fight for nothing..just because one person started the hatred between them.. this is what happening..people instead of all this energy for hatred… we can use it to help poor people or to save the world from lots of issue… stop being repulsive and be progressive

    last thing.. away from the muslim issue… is it right to educate our children… teenagers and others how to hate and learn bad stuff in cartoons!! dnt u think this isn’t as negative as it is to our daily life!?

  • A muslim’s voice

    what is this?
    i ask 1 thing how will there be peace in this world when 1 is not taking care of deep believe of the othere?
    this is just redicolous
    it will really give birth the hatred feeling of muslims against those who are involve in this.
    i just request those who draw this that they just think how wil they feel if any body draw the pisture of there own religious leader?
    they wil clearly feel very bad and angry so y should they do such bad thing against a muslim?

  • faima hanif

    I LOVE MUHAMMAD(Peace be upon Him ) more than my myself

    Against the upcoming event of Gustakhi e RasoolSAW all muslim brothers and sisters are requested to directly call facebook headquarter at 001-650-543-4800 (also mail at [email protected] ) and record ur protest , or write letters to Facebook 156 University AvePalo Alto, Ca 94301. All Muslim brothers living in CA ,go out and record ur protest at facebook Head-Quarte

  • Racist Muslims

    What? If these people are offended, they can kill themselves. It’s time for free people to stop backing down to these cowards who threaten us. Threats, as far as i’m concerned are the sam as commiting the act and should be treated as such. I yearn for a time when people who made stupid threats were held accountable for the things they say.

    You biggot muslims will feel the backlash you yourselves create.