“Legend of Korra” trailer

Avatar: The Last Airbender was a very successful anime-inspired seies for Nickelodeon. Unfortunately the franchise took a hit last year with the M. Night Shyamalan live action feature. Undeterred, Avatar creators Michael DiMartino and Bryan Konietzko are supervising 26 episodes of a new spin-off limited series, The Last Airbender: Legend of Korra, which is scheduled to debut next year. Last week at Comic Con Nick released this first taste:


  • Senor Money

    This looks great, but with that budget, and open-ended production schedule, it had BETTER look good!

    Jerry, thanks for giving action-adventure animation some sorely needed coverage on this site! Keep it up!

  • T. Laurel Sulfate

    [delurks]

    I am so stoked about this series!

    Some news from the Comic-Con panel here:

    http://avatarthelastairbenderonline.com/airbender-legend-korra-panel-news/

    [relurks]

  • http://www.daryl-rhystaylor.co.uk DarylT

    And it looks awesome!

  • http://jmacktionhero.blogspot.com/ JMack

    I am so Stunned by this! Everything looks beautiful! I’m a fan of the original series so you better believe I’m pumped for next year! The story is Very interesting.

    It does look more Anime-ish than the last go around.

  • http://youtube.com/user/drexelboi1991 tedzey

    This is awesome! I like how the polar bear dog is in this knowing that it was going to be in the original Avatar series!

  • http://www.animationinsider.net/ Aaron B.

    It’s a great franchise and the show creators have their hands in everything, which is fun, and means the animation oozes personal flavor and style much of the time. Not to overlook the rest of the writers and artists over at Nickelodeon… the Art of The Animated Series, released by Dark Horse sometime ago, is an exceptional hardcover publication.

  • cbat628

    NERDGASM!

  • Al

    (I know I’m preaching to the choir here but I’ve told this to many people this over the years and converted many people into Avatar fans.)

    If you haven’t seen the original series, GO WATCH IT! Don’t judge it because it’s anime style or on Nickelodeon or even aimed at a younger audience. It’s one of the most clever, original and well-written TV shows of the last decade.

    • Gustavo

      Nuff said!!!

    • Justin

      Could not agree more. Amazing!

    • http://www.smartcomix.com Robert

      Spot on assessment Al.

  • Yves F

    Kind of like Disney doing their Tron animated series a couple of years after the reboot Tron CG flop of last December.

    • Jay

      The movie earned 400 million in theaters (from a $170 mil budget), created two best selling electronica albums, spawned a new Disneyland night show, and generated a new line of merchandise that is still being sold in stores and theme parks. The sequel is greenlit and the animated series launches next year.

      Whether or not you enjoyed the film, it was not a “flop”.

  • ovi

    im probably the only person on earth to have not seen a single epi of this show. i dont even know what the premise is.
    i cant believe how huge this show is and how much its not even on my radar.

    am i the only one that feels this way?

    >oVi

    • Jabberwocky

      First off– go find the show and watch it. The whole series is on Netflix streaming, and it’s totally worth it. I’ve seen the entire series probably half a dozen times now and it never gets old.

      The premise is given in the opening credits, but the basics are this: there are four nations, one for each element, water, earth, fire, and air. Some people can “bend” the elements and control them. Only one person, the Avatar, can bend all four elements. A hundred years ago, the Avatar disappeared, and the Fire Nation launched a war on the rest of the world. The show begins when the Avatar– a 12-year-old boy– is found, and starts with him trying to learn the other elements so he can stop the war.

    • Ira

      Consider yourself one of the lucky few. I had been told about the series and for years avoided taking the time to watch it. Once I discovered the series for myself it was like finding an amazing book that no one had ruined for me and I quickly fell in love with the show. The writing is great, the characters are really genuine and you care about them. The direction on the show is really nice and the overall series was very impressive.

  • Daniel

    this looks like a waterdown mcdonaldized version of anime!! Compare this trailer with anything that norio matsumoto has animated on naruto and birdy.. Both are for tv, but the talent level between the two shows is astounding~

    It surprises me so much that there are so many americans here who feel the need to waterdown everything outside their own cultural bubble!

    “.. the animation oozes personal flavor and style much of the time..”

    the show feels like a yoshinoya version of really great japanese food! Hey Aaron, do me a favor and look up norio matsumoto on youtube, and tell me avatar oozes personal flavor and style!

    Another thing is that the animation industry in america is so facinated with goeblines students, but pretty much they are a europeanized version of these great anime animators but just with a change of character design.. When I look at a student film which has running in it.. and compare that with the current anime scenes with running.. there is no difference! But for Americans, we seem to be fascinated with them because they are “french”, and throw a blind eye to the amazing talent level of japanese animators who get half the time and half the budget to do what they do!

    • Bart

      I don’t fully agree with you about the Gobelins stuff, because a lot of it variates, but I did want to add other Japanese animators that people just overlook, most notably people at Studio 4C. Why is it we are supposed to be enamoured with American knock off anime and accept it when there’s not much going on with watering down a standard Japanese look? It’s already been watered down.

      Instead look at shows Masaaki Yuasa directs or cartoons by Koji Morimoto or almost anyone on the Genius Party series and see that the variation and originality in Japan is off the charts.

      • JMatte

        Hmmm…so, when the Studio 4C animated Thundercats show will hit the airwaves later this week…we can call it an anime, while for Avatar…
        Okay, no. I’m not getting into this anime-anime inspired argument. That can of work can stay closed.

        It’s a language thing. Anime is for animation, just like Bandes Dessinees is french for comics.
        Or would that be graphic novel?
        Augh!!

      • Royce Day

        “Or would that be graphic novel?”

        Sequential Art!

        More seriously, animators and illustrators have been cribbing styles from each other probably since the invention of the flipbook. How much does Tezuka owe his expressions from Disney? McCracken and Tartakovsky were inspired by Magical Girl animes for the Powerpuff Girls (and it was borrowed right back for Powerpuff Z), the creator of Ruroni Kenshin cribbed many of his villian designs from the X-Men comics. It goes on and on, back and forth. Anime and animation are the same thing, just spoken in different languages.

    • Genaro

      Bravo!!! If you really want to see a fantastic anime tv show for kids, I recommend you ‘Dennou Coil’ (director: Mitsuo Iso / Studio: Madhouse). When I think in animation for kids, ‘Dennou Coil’ is the first thing that come to my mind. I recommend it to everyone. It makes ‘Avatar’ look so stupid!!!

      • SS7

        Seriously buddy? You’re coming here to bash a show? We’re not talking about Animes here. “Avatar look stupid” Then it better be one of the best shows in the world ’cause that’s a tall order.

    • http://beesbuzz.biz/ fluffy

      Nobody in their right mind calls Avatar “anime.” They just call it anime-inspired, which it is. It’s also inspired by quite a lot of Asian history and mythology, and is one of the most beautiful shows I’ve ever seen (although the first season is a bit of a slog to get through at times, but it REALLY picks up in the second season and never lets up).

      • Daniel

        “It’s also inspired by quite a lot of asian history and mythology”

        lmaof!

        That’s like combining mexico, canada, and the united states into one culture! Asia is quite a large continent with many visually different cultures.. Japan is different from vietnam.. Korea is different from china.. etc

        the fact that this show combines all those different cultures in one hodgepodge is just as ridiculous as having a guy with a french accent star in a role about german nazis…

        In my opinion, this is one of the worst looking shows I’ve seen in awhile! It looks a lot worse because of it’s pretentious designs and watered-down look! Anime inspired? This is as bad as princess and the frog being inspired by Lady and the Tramp!

        Can no one see the difference between any scene directed by norio matsumoto and the best scene in avatar? It’s really hard to imagine that nobody can notice that the…

        1. animation quality
        2. effects
        3. camera
        4. rhythm of cutting
        5. appeal in design
        6. level of draftsmanship
        7. entertainment value

        is better?

      • JMatte

        Seeing all your comment about the very talented Norio Matsumoto (undeniably awesome artist), it is easy to assume you are a huge fan. All good.
        I may be wrong, but I get the impression you would not like any shows the man hasn’t worked on. At least, one that isn’t anime or anime inspired.

        I can’t help but raise an eyebrow at your vitriolic “…one of the worst looking shows…” comment. Wow. I obviously don’t know what your standards are (except for the many time mentioned Norio Matsumoto), but now I’m curious to know what other good or worse looking shows are on your list, outside of Mastumoto’s work. Just for balance, you know.
        Because, I don’t know…Legend Of Korra looks pretty solid to me. Could be just a question of taste too.

      • Guester

        It would have to be taste, because that guy is getting himself all pissed off over an animated TV show, and it’s one that doesn’t look bad either.

        Who cares if it’s not real anime? Maybe some people don’t like so-called “Real” anime. So far, the anime I’ve seen has had beautiful artwork and animation, but the stories and plotlines were absolute shit. The creators of the Avatar series, In my opinion have excellently combined well-told and thought out stories, relatively interesting characters(Zuko’s growth throughout the 3 seasons from villain, anti-hero, to full blown hero, is one of the best story arcs in a children’s animated show)with well-done animation(for television). Personally, I believe the original “Avatar:The Last Airbender” series to be ONLY good and worthwhile show Nickelodeon has put out in the last decade, bar none. It deserves all of the awards and accolades it has gotten(including the Emmys and the Peabody award)

      • Daniel

        shows that are well done and not done by norio…

        1. Batman Beyond

        this sequence was done by TMS

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dyqh5FgzWFU

        2. Krusty Gets Busted – The Simpsons

        excellent writing for a prime time show

        3. From A to ZZZ by Chuck Jones

        some of Chuck’s best!

        4. Future Boy Conan series by Studio Ghibli
        also.. (Sherlock Hound, Anne of Green Gables, Lupin..etc)

        these are just a couple of my favorites..

        none of them seem to be watered-down hollow imitations of something else

      • Chris Sobieniak

        Technically, Future Boy Conan was produced by Nippon Animation, not Ghibli, but it had several future key staffers on that show.

      • tonma

        Daniel, what you and others call watered down I will have to call adaptation, because you know, there is a big chunk of the world that can’t get into anime because stories are too long an pacing too slow,(even naruto),not everyone has the attention span and patience to find out a show is great after a 10 episode battle. It’s indeed a matter of taste, and there’s noting wrong with some variety in the world.

        But aside all that ,saying Avatar is the worst anything is a silly thing to say, we all watch TV cartoons and we all know what the worst things look like… come on.

    • GW

      I’m fully aware that those Gobelins shorts are often anime takeoffs. I realize that Avatar rips off numerous visual elements from anime, but Avatar frankly blows away most of the TV anime I’ve seen. I can’t make it past the first episode or the first few minutes of the first episode with nearly every anime series.

      They’re clearly taking many elements secondhand, but in my opinion the show is far better than most of the anime that inspires it. There are some brilliant anime series, Kaiba, Mononoke, and Usavich, but I’ve found most anime series to be quite dull. Naruto’s about a dumb looking kid who likes poorly imitating Jackie Chan and Birdy’s a crime fighting playboy bunny.

    • SS7

      No, it’s not a watered down version of Anime. Sorry. You’re also not aware of a great Korean animator by the name of kihyun ryu who’s a supervising director on Korra. Look him up and then come back to me.

      • Daniel

        Kihyun Ryu:

        worked on.. Dante’s Inferno.. The Boondocks.. Recess.. Hercules and Xena

        I pretty much hate all of those shows.. He was also a character designer for Boondocks and Dante’s Inferno.. give me a break!!

        Norio Matsumoto

        worked on..

        Blood the last vampire.. Memories.. Sword of the Stranger.. Naruto.. Birdy.. Evangelion.. Escaflowne.. etc

        pwned!!

        no one on avatar is on the level of him or any of these guys right here:

        http://www.pelleas.net/animators/

      • SS7

        Dude, please. Oh you don’t like those show so you’re willing to overlook his work. Do yourself a favor and check out his work because all you’re doing is bashing on something you don’t know anything about.
        You’re coming off very petulant. Pwned? Where are we right now?

        Avatar was solid all the way through. Backgrounds, storyboards, key animation, in-betweening, direction. Excellent. I don’t need to see what some Japanese animator did for a 2 minute sequence. How does the overall episode stand on it’s own? Don’t show me a little spot of brilliance and then 7 minutes of static characters exchanging dialogue.

      • Daniel

        This guy Kihyun Ryu basically copies frames off FLCL to study from, which were animated and directed by these guys:

        http://www.pelleas.net/animators/

        I’ve been to his blog and seen some of his scenes, and he is pretty solid for what he has to do for the show, but its like comparing Milt Kahl’s Tigger to the back to video Tigger animation of the 90s. It’s not anime-inspired, it will always be a weak imitation of the real thing. He is definately not on the same level as those animators I listed looking at his pencil tests~

        Actually, the whole show avatar is basically ripping off from FLCL anyway! Ditto to the Boondocks as well! It’s not inspired when you pretty much see a weak imitation of the eyes, noses, mouth shapes, of FLCL in Avatar!! For me, when a show starts to use the exact same character design symbols of FLCL in Avatar, it crosses the line from being inspired to imitating it~

        The key animation, storyboards, inbetweening, backgrounds, direction, all have a sense of imitation of the work of norio and the group of highly skilled animators they have in japan.. but not as well done!

        obviously we have different standards of what is good animation in tv!

      • gah227

        Hrm. I don’t think you could say Avatar is ripping off FLCL in any way. Sure, it tries copy the anime visual treatment, but there’s no way in hell it’s purely an FLCL thing. And even in FLCL, while beautiful and insanely well-animated, the characters still have a generic look that most anime has.

        Also, it’s pretty unfair of you to show off the Matsumoto episodes of Naruto as comparison considering most of the series looks like garbage. I mean, there’s about 1 amazing episode per 80 crapfests, the vast majority of which look a lot worse than any Avatar episode. I mean, Avatar usually has at least one well-animated scene per episode. You can’t say the same about Naruto.

        Also, I’d be curious to know about the outsourcing differences in the production process. Because that usually weights in a lot on the quality of a series.

    • Jason

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZc3DA8rGeQ&feature=channel_video_title

      Please, demonstrate a scene from Matsumoto’s standard work that is better than the above scene from Avatar.

      • Upstanding Citizen

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nh2bxxCI-BE

        Keep in mind that Avatar’s episodes take the better part of a year to put together while most anime episodes take about a month. Avatar’s a well animated show, but it’s shy of great. Naruto’s best animated episodes have a stronger sense of timing and composition that lifts them above Avatar’s smoother, more detailed work. I really hope the animators on Korra have those other aspects down, because they have the chops to pull it off. We’ll see.

      • Amelio

        I agree with Upstanding Citizen:
        Watch the later half of this battle that Norio Matsumoto directed:
        to me it is EASILY better than the Azula vs Zuko Agni Ki. (which I won’t deny is impressive for a nickelodean show!)

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQQmQaqxlmE

        Every entire element is just… better.

        Actually watching it again just now I don’t think it’s even on the same grounds as to be compared.

      • Upstanding Citizen

        Two things I noticed in that video (which is even better than mine):

        Matsumoto’s a better actor than the Avatar animators. One of my big problems with the show is how safe most of the expressions are, never really getting particularly gutsy and turning certain characters too one-note. It’s a matter of taste, but I also love how Matsumoto’s experimenting with design, getting selectively hyper-stylized in certain shots for effect.

        I think the main reason Avatar didn’t deliver on those elements is it suffers the common problem of making itself slave to the model sheet. There’s more focus on making things look “right” and highly detailed than “good.” The only time it ever breaks that is for comedic effect, when it could be much more useful in the more dramatic moments.

        Again, I hope Korra fixes this. I distinctly remember bits of throwaway animation from the first series that came close, but I want to see it through the whole show. DR Movie’s a good studio, so I don’t doubt they can pull it off (though I wonder if that’s what Nickelodeon wants…)

      • Whatt??

        Avatar episodes take the better part of a year to animate..? Wouldn’t we be on like episode 5 or 6, season 1 right now? How does this make any sense? Professional animators all have to meet strict deadlines, the length of production is definately not spent entirely on animation,

        Also, the clip you picked as an example of better animation than the zuko/azula fight was certainly not as impressive, I’m sure you could find one, but that just wasn’t it. (admittedly Amelio’s clip would not load for me, so I’m speaking about the first clip) Don’t underestimate the ambitious task of animating lighting during a scene with so much fire, versus no shading what-so-ever. Also the effects animators job with the lightening and fire, verses the very cheesy ground rubble, cartoonish blob of smoke, and equally unimpressive water trickle displayed in that scene. The characters movements are definately impressive, smooth, and stylish, but over-all I’m going with the Avatar clip.

      • Jason

        I was responding to Daniel’s claim that Avatar is just a “pale imitation” of anime, and that “any scene” directed by Matsumoto is better at just about everything than the best scenes of Avatar.

        Now, I won’t criticize Matsumoto unfairly, since I am not all that familiar with his work. Regardless whether Matsumoto or the animators of Avatar are “better”, going by the scenes provided it’s undeniable that they are *different*. Matsumoto’s animation is very fast-paced and fluid but sacrifices detail and results in a lot of off-modeling. Avatar maintains high detail and fluidity while going easy on the pace, which matches up well with the mostly human physical abilities of the characters. If the Avatar animators wanted to go after the same style as Matsumoto, I’m sure they could; however, they *don’t*. Avatar fails to be a pail imitation of anime because…it doesn’t try. It draws a lot of inspiration for its art style from anime, but when it comes to action it’s grounded in a sense of realism that prohibits over-the-top spectacles.

        I will note that while Avatar episodes do take a long time to animate, often they are produced simultaneously, and as an American show it has season hiatuses to work on the episodes.

    • NC

      OMG!!! Daniel Where have you BEEN!!?!? So let me get this straight other cultures shouldn’t influence other cultures? We’re just all suppose to live in vacuums? Well if you ask me anime is just a crappy rip off of Disney animation. And if you know your anime history you’d know what I’m talking about.

      Anime sold out a long time ago, Avatar brought some freshness back into it and if you don’t believe me than maybe the fact that seventh grade kids can master your oh-so high and mighty art style might.

      Get out from your Japan-0-phile, Western-phobic rock and maybe see that there is more than just cookie cutter heads with big eyes.

      • Daniel

        There is nothing wrong with other cultures influencing other cultures.. but avatar isn’t influenced by it.. its a watered-down imitation of it..

        I wouldn’t have a problem with it if it was on the same level or better then the talent in japan..

        which it isnt!

        .. again I’ve seen their top talent kihyun ryu basically copy FLCL frames which were done by those same japanese animators..

        also a style guide that they literally lifted from FLCL.. in terms of shots, expressions, shape language..etc

        pathetic!

      • OhG

        “I’ve seen their top talent kihyun ryu basically copy FLCL frames which were done by those same japanese animators..”

        If you read Ryu’s description of the file then you’d clearly see that those were studies. Practice. Learning from your idols by doing master copies.

        There are certainly things our industry can be doing to become more Japanese like.

        Doing studies is one of them.

    • angieness

      Yes, how dare the Americans be inspired by anime! HOW DARE THEY! I don’t know how old you are, but when I was growing up, Toonami was everywhere. Anime made a huge impact on myself and many of my fellow artists, so I’m not at all surprised to see obviously anime inspired film and comics emerge these days. I’ll admit, I was initially scared of watching Avatar because as an anime fan, the idea of a heavily anime influenced American cartoon was a little scary.

      But then I realized, wait, that’s silly. These guys are just like me, they grew up with anime and it shows in their work, who am I to judge someone for loving the same thing as me. So I sat down and watched the series and loved it. I’m not going to sit and say Avatar is the pinnacle of animation because it’s not. But it is a very charming and entertaining series. Sure, it’s not going toe to toe with any of the anime masters in terms of animation quality, but it was definitely one of the most impressive looking cartoons on American television at the time. (and still looks far better than most the stuff Nick and Cartoon Network plays now)

      You’re more than welcome to dislike the show for whatever reason. But don’t act as though anime inspired=bad. I enjoy the show because I find it entertaining, not because it looks like anime.

      • Daniel

        again.. let me make this super clear:

        this is NOT anime “inspired”

        this is a weak IMITATION of anime

        when a studio has :

        1. a style guide that rips off FLCL and other anime camera angles, facial expressions, and poses

        2. kihyun ryu copy still frames from FLCL

        .. it is not “inspiration”.. it is ripping it off!!

        To me, being inspired by something is hanging it up on my wall so I can look at it while I do my own work, not literally spelling out all the cliche things about FLCL or other anime in a document and handing it out to the whole production crew so they can be “inspired” to put it in their storyboards..

        where is the artistic integrity in that?

      • Rolling Eyes

        And I can say that your comments have been nothing more than weak imitations at someone trying to put together a logical argument.

      • Sean

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    • OhG

      Daniel,

      The draftsmanship and overall quality of work in Japan is undeniably top notch, and is definitely a level of quality that we westerners should strive for. And a large and growing number of artists in the western cartoon industry realize this and are trying to do so.

      From the way you so casually dismiss other people’s work, it sounds like you are saying that because their current efforts are not as great as animators such as Matsumoto’s, that they should not even try.

      What kind of attitude is that? Do you want the western industry to take more anime cues and to raise the quality level to compete with anime? If so, then you’d understand that improvement is a process, not an overnight achievement.

      You talk as if the people here aren’t even trying, which is an insultingly huge claim with no backing. I believe that after you’ve worked a while in the animation industry and experienced the labor of improvement yourself and witnessed firsthand the struggles and ambitions of your peers, then perhaps then you would better appreciate and understand the efforts both here and overseas.

      • James Ciambor

        I think we all need to stop with the romanticizing with Japan. I am alienated by today’s young blood in animation striving to emulate Japan and neglect every aspect of American Animation, when animations lineage can be traced back to America and everything we take for granted as well. Osamu Tezuka and Myiazaki made some honorable expansions in animation which I will not deny but even admitted that they owe much of their style to America.

        These very pioneers that inspired Japan and created all of what we take for granted are buried in obscurity and esoteric even within our own industry. Its a bit disturbing when the kids entering Disney and Pixar (The Big Leagues) have little appreciation for their own native animation. The earlier generations Brad Bird, John Lassater appreciated the classics. This is why I think American Animation is suffering we don’t actually want to adhere to our own culture and think we will somehow improve our product by being like Japan.

        What is even more pessimistic is that Japan has more of an appreciation for America than our own students. Myiazaki, Tezuka, and Monkey Punch are huge fans of Disney, Fleischer, Chuck Jones, Mad Magazine, and Ward Kimball. Ghilbi Studio Museum has honored several classics.

        What has happened to appreciating and borrowing influence from ourselves?

      • James Ciambor

        Daniel you seem to be reminiscent of those anime fans on list-serves that believes that America is automatically inferior to Japan without any hard evidence. I respect your appreciation for Japan but don’t be so quick to dismiss America.

        Our qualities lie in the innate ability to tell rich stories based on what Micheal Maltese, John Lassater, and Walt Disney have accomplished. Or from the socially conscious Ralph Bakshi, or the whimsical stories and personalities of John K’s and Bob Clampett’s material.

        Because its a little bizarre seeing that kids entering Pixar and Disney, having little appreciation for their own native country. I don’t know if I would want to pay to see a Pixar film twenty years from now that neglects any American Artistic influence.

        Also no offense to you but I’m a bit offended myself that you believe animation will improve if we drop all our methods of producing a cartoon and adhere to Japan. Didn’t our methods work with Fantasia, Pinocchio, Snow White, What’s Opera Doc, The Great Piggy Bank Robbery?, Looney Tunes, Merrie Melodies, Fleischer’s Superman, Fleischer’s Mr. Bug, Toy Story, Finding Nemo, UP, John K, Bruce Timm, Heavy Traffic, Winsor Mccay’s extensive work?

      • Daniel

        James,

        I just listed above some of my favorite tv shows not are not anime including early episodes of the Simpsons which were written by Brad Bird, Chuck Jones’ from A to ZZZ, and Bruce Timm’s Batman series..

        Don’t worry, I have a huge appreciation of the many pioneers in animation in America as well…

        But I think those same pioneers like Milt Kahl, Winsor Mccay, Max Fleischer, and Tex Avery would laugh their ass off on doing “master copies” off other animation studios and literally making a style guide that spells out cliche shots, expressions, and animation in FLCL.

        One thing that Brad is constantly saying about the old guys that worked during the golden age of animation was that they constantly had to observe life and try to put that in their own work (because their was nothing to copy!)

        … and this is one of the biggest critiques that Brad has on this generation of animation artists.. It’s not the fact they “have little appreciation for their own native country’s animation pioneers”.. but that they are so “inspired” by them that they forget to observe life around them.. like how Milt Kahl or Chuck Jones would pull from REAL life!

        I could literally imagine if Milt were alive today, that he would laugh his ass off looking at that style guide that spelled out FLCL cliches!

        I seriously wish that instead of the crew on Avatar try to copy what norio already mastered in Japan, to OBSERVE REAL LIFE!! .. because that’s what the old guys did…

        and for those that feel those action sequences have a “realistic” quality to them.. we just see animation completely differently.. In my opinion, almost all the fight sequences lack real observation and believability.. again stop copying norio, and watch some real fight choreography! get some weight in your animation!!

      • Daniel

        “Also no offense to you but I’m a bit offended myself that you believe animation will improve if we drop all our methods of producing a cartoon and adhere to Japan.”

        .. James, I am not adhering that Japan’s production methods are better then America’s, because I have the same level of respect for those same pioneers in America…

        You assume since I dismiss AVATAR’s production quality I am dismissing AMERICA as a WHOLE is ridiculous..

        what my main points are these:

        1. STOP DOING MASTER COPIES OFF FLCL FRAME GRABS!

        2. STOP TRYING TO SPELL OUT FLCL CLICHE’S IN YOUR STYLE GUIDE!

        3. DO OBSERVE REAL LIFE (GO TO THE SOURCE)

        this is why the production team on avatar will always be a step behind norio and the talent in Japan.. while norio will be stretching his own limitations and finding new ways to express himself with his craft (not through copying his peers but pulling from life and other sources), AVATAR will always be looking to find norio’s latest animation sequence and trying to imitate it…

        I would be amazed if you thought any of those pioneers you just name would disagree with my main points..

        “Because its a little bizarre seeing that kids entering Pixar and Disney, having little appreciation for their own native country. I don’t know if I would want to pay to see a Pixar film twenty years from now that neglects any American Artistic influence.”

        You obviously are making really generalized assumptions on those younger then you that are working at Pixar and Disney.. or have some personal issues that you need to work through about them.. But I would say please don’t project your own assumptions on everyone that is younger then you who are working in the industry.. This is as moronic as me believe anyone older then me has this appreciation for animation history.. You would be surprised by how much this generation may know and appreciate with the availability of information on the internet, books, network of artists..etc

      • James Ciambor

        Ironically, Disney’s whole copy life philosophy is derived from him originally wanting to become a live-action director. Which was his original reason for going to Los Angeles every studio shut him out. Animation was so under-established in 1923 when he founded Disney Brothers Studios that it was much easier to find steady employment there.

        So really anime because it can be traced back to Disney is really an emulation of Live-Action like Disney was. Warner Bros. attitude was different the opposite actually but I can categorize it as this. Disney and Anime manage to capture the charm and natural beauty this world has to offer that the average individual neglects to notice. The world around us is a painting waiting to be viewed for all its qualities. Warner Bros. is more stylized as is Fleischer and UPA.

        I see it all as subjective. The only fact steaming from all of our arguments is that its all subjective. But both have their own qualities.

      • Daniel

        “So really anime because it can be traced back to Disney is really an emulation of Live-Action like Disney was.”

        If you’ve read Disney’s note to Don Graham about the training of disney animators beginning in 1938, Disney clearly articulates that animation is different from “emulating reality”. He goes on to say that what he is trying to strive for in animation, which is not to copy life, but to caricature it.

        He may have wanted to become a live action director earlier in his life, but during the time where he was involved with the early disney feature animated films, he deeply yearned for animation to become a artform seperate from live-action, something beyond it..

        Sergei Eisenstein (great film theorist from Russia who influenced Andrei Tarkovsky and many other live action directors) also agreed with Walt that animation had the capability to become a higher artform then live-action..

        also if you read any of Art Babbit’s lectures, Grim Natwick, Chuck Jones, Don Graham (taught a lot of animation artists at chouinard).. etc they all deeply valued observing real life! not to copy it, but to caricature it, basically make a statement about it!

        I would have a hard time believing you if you thought any of those non disney pioneers didn’t value observing life and putting it in to their work! (again.. not copying life.. but caricaturing it)

      • Daniel

        again.. for those who clearly don’t understand what I’m gripping out…

        I am NOT saying:

        1. AVATAR shouldn’t be anime influenced

        2, AVATAR is anime or not anime

        3. Different cultural artforms shouldn’t influence each other

        4. AVATAR needs to be more anime

        5. The Japanese animation industry as a whole is better then America’s animation industry as a whole (clearly I was talking about individual animators in japan and did list american animators that are just as exceptional)

        my main point is:

        The production quality is weak and pretentious because…

        A. Their “best” director does master copies off FLCL frame grabs
        B. They have a style guide that spells out cliche’s in FLCL and asks the
        story artist to be “inspired” to put it in their boards
        C. The very best scenes in AVATAR give the impression of looking at
        norio’s work too much instead of observing REAL LIFE (the source)

        AVATAR may be nickelodean’s best animated series, but AVATAR and many other tv shows should take a lesson from the great animators from the past (both japanese, american, russian,..etc) who instead of copying other animation studios, they did their own homework and observed life, studied real action choreography, and were bold enough to be original

        wasn’t it T.Hee that said, “think different, draw different”

      • bourbonbon

        A. I cannot understand why this is offending you so much. Storyboard artists and directors study other films and shows ALL THE TIME. It’s educational and inspiring to study what other people have done, analyze it, and see what does and doesn’t work for you. It’s really short-sighted and ignorant of you to keep harping on this point like it’s a big deal.

        B. Ditto for this, if this is even true. Where did you see this, anyway?

        And Avatar DID and DOES study action choreography from actual martial artists… at last month’s SDCC panel they even showed a demonstration with the martial artist they worked with.

      • OhG

        In response to Daniel.

        I don’t believe your criticisms are so justified because you seem rather oblivious or that you are turning a blind eye toward several

        “my main point is: The production quality is weak and pretentious because…
        A. Their “best” director does master copies off FLCL frame grabs”

        Instead of forming an opinion on someone based off of one file (and a study, of all things), browse through the entirety of someone’s work before assuming that it is the ONLY thing they’ve ever drawn or studied from.
        Taking Ryu for example, since you have been actively bringing him up, you could see from his blog that there are life drawings, animations, character model sheets, personal doodles and so on in a variety of styles. And this is just barely a glance at all the things he’s produced over the years (the blog was last updated in 2008.) http://blacksataguni.blogspot.com/

        “B. They have a style guide that spells out cliche’s in FLCL and asks the
        story artist to be “inspired” to put it in their boards”

        Style guides and character sheets are a necessity during production, so your criticism of story artists having model sheets to work from is rather pointless. So instead, I’ll assume that your argument here is that the Avatar style seems derivative.

        I’ll say it now, indeed you are right in that there is a heavy influence in the designs and animation. But that’s what styles are– It’s the offspring of multiple parent sources of inspiration; problem-solving plus your personal taste, which accumulates along the way based off of things you’ve seen and admired, and regurgitated with your own personal flair.

        Styles evolve from function as well as aesthetics; Similar to the importance of tropes in storytelling, “cliches” in designs are often repeated because they Work and People Like Them. Likewise, for all our different opinions, we share the same set of alphabet and the same dictionary of words.

        You may not personally admire the aesthetics of what you consider “watered down FLCL”, but it is pointless of you to dismiss the a body of work just because you’ve identified one of its sources of inspiration and thus deem it unoriginal. FLCL itself couldn’t have been designed the way it was if its artists weren’t inspired by artists before them.

        As repeated to death over and over again in previous comments, Japanese anime was inspired from western animation, — so what’s wrong with things going full circle and being inspired by the Japanese and then back again? Inspiration and progress is not a one way relationship, and it’s not as if we are limited to only one source of inspiration at a time. Being accepting towards change, and incorporating influences from all over, is what evolution is.

        I understand your concern that by copying from artists that copy from real life (aka the pure original source), that we are only getting watered down versions of something that is already watered down. But you are forgetting two things: one, that just because an artist studies the work of another artist, doesn’t mean that they aren’t also studying from real life. And second, that studying the way someone else has solved a set of problems means that we are capable of standing on each others shoulders rather than foolishly always trying to rebuild towers from ground up just for the sake of being “Original”.

        “C. The very best scenes in AVATAR give the impression of looking at
        norio’s work too much instead of observing REAL LIFE (the source)”

        Please take the time to look up more information on the production before you take the time to criticize said production.

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-v2Jxl6v4hk
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMbwBhl1x-Q and etc.

      • James Ciambor

        OhG I know its an evolutionary cycle whereas the industry is built up by taking influence from each other, we feed off each other most industries borrow from each other to improve. The Beatles were not necessarily the originators of the British Invasion as they were borrowing from others and in turn The Kinks, The Who, and Rolling Stones borrowed from them this counter borrowing help build the industry. Though there is such neglect to appreciate America these days. Anime circulates in the mainstream much greater than the classics and many young aspiring artists seem to be echoeing this mainstream mentality.

        I know that I came off harsh initially and there will be no denial of that. OhG what got me going was your comment pertaining that America is of poorer quality. That’s a blanket statement when both countries have both proficient animation and insufferable animation. It depends on who you are referring to for every profound accomplishment the countries have there’s a hidden skeleton in their closet that they don’t want to share. We have Disney and Warner Bros. as standard bearers than we have Van Beuren and Terry as the ones that are constantly panned because those two are the worst we have to offer historically speaking.

        Understand that no one has the distinction of having several consecutive quality films in a row. Pixar struck out with A Bugs Life and Cars series I hate the inaneness of Cars 2. Myiazaki has struck out on occasion as well despite the fact that both are the standard bearers of today though even then the lesser producers such as Dreamworks and Modern Disney still have something worth watching which is more rare. Most studios are inconsistent when it comes to exceptional output but there are those that stand out and worth noticing.

        Also FLCL has a superior color selection from Avatar and is more attractive from a visual standpoint and generally stronger personalities. Avatar does however have excellent story structure and the characters and elaborate settings that always serve the narrative first, something Disney philosophically believed and pioneered and Japan celebrated.

        I also happen to see that FLCL has heavily influenced Avatar Ty Lee is reminiscent of Naota Nandaba. In her expressions personality and so on and so forth.

        Also Avatar is dependent upon other cultures many of the layouts of the upcoming Korra are derived from the cityscape of Vancouver, also the whole elemental powers is derived from China its entitled Wu Xing. So this isn’t hopelessly trying to emulate Japan and failing at it. Just because it has some of the stylistic features of Japan does not make it hopeless emulation.

        Though beyond that I see having a preference for either one is subjective as all of our comments are.

      • Daniel

        “Style guides and character sheets are a necessity during production, so your criticism of story artists having model sheets to work from is rather pointless. So instead, I’ll assume that your argument here is that the Avatar style seems derivative.”

        Let me make this super clear for you. I am not complaining that the story artist use style guides or character sheets. It is the manner that the style guide was presented:

        In this particular “style” guide, they used images from the actual shows (FLCL and others) and told the story artist to be “inspired” to put those same shots, expressions, and poses in their work.

        In a normal television studio production, the style guide and character sheets are drawn from that particular show’s character designer and/or art director.

        again, I am not complaining the fact that this show uses style guides or character sheets, I am complaining that they are using frames from other television shows in their style guide and are trying to break down another television show’s style in the most simplistic watered-down way to put it in AVATAR.

        I think I stated this in another post, but I have looked at his blog and he is nothing special. Not only does he copy FLCL frames, but his character designs lack appeal and personality, the movement and spacing lacks weight and a lack of sensitivity, the poses lack rhythm, the performance lacks believability, the life drawings lack emphasis… etc… and most of all, it just looks like fan-art to me..

        again, another personal subjective opinion, but if they studied all that real life choreography, why is it not present in the actual work? I’m sure I wouldn’t be able to convince you even if I broke down frame by frame why those scenes are NOT working.. especially since many of you feel that the difference between norio and ryu is just “different”

        I agree that some of this is taste, but I would bet that most of those early pioneering animation artists like Chuck Jones, Milt Kahl, Art Babbit, Tex Avery, and many others would agree with me in my taste about AVATAR’s style and production quality!

      • Daniel

        “http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-v2Jxl6v4hk
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMbwBhl1x-Q and etc.”

        .. again.. lacks weight and believability.. the poses actually look more stiff then the reference.. and the reference that was shot lacked a sense of believable performance, thought process.. etc

        the animator should have put more performance and appeal (visually and in terms of movement), but the reference actually stiffened him more and falls into copying what you see instead of understanding it

        actually this is a perfect example of imitation rather then being inspired by it

      • Jason

        Daniel, I don’t see where you are coming from by saying, “AVATAR will always be looking to find norio’s latest animation sequence and trying to imitate it.” From the fight scenes animated by Matsumoto and the one I posted from Avatar, they are nothing alike. Avatar isn’t trying to imitate Norio Matsumoto. If you don’t mind, could you post a fight scene from Avatar and one from Norio’s work and point out how they are similar? As others have noted, the animators use a real-life martial arts choreographer named Sifu Kisu to get video reference for each battle. If they need a little inspiration for the choreography they refer to classic martial arts movies — that’s live-action movies, not recent anime.

        As for Kihyun Ryu, so what if he uses FLCL for inspiration? He still makes original animation and drawings for the show. The FLCL imitation actually goes up higher than him btw, the co-creators of the series Mike DiMartino and Bryan Konietzco are big FLCL fans and actually told the whole team that worked on the show (who were used to comedy American animation beforehand) to rent FLCL and watch it to get a feel for what they were trying to accomplish with Avatar. They didn’t copy anything for use in the show, they just used it for inspiration. Among other things. Miyazaki was a big influence too, as he is for many Japanese animators.

        And, regardless of whatever source Avatar drew inspiration from, the point remains: it’s still great. It’s one of, if not the, best American animated action series of the last decade. It combines well-done action sequences with a well-written plot, a imaginative world (which uses elements from cultures all across Asia, not just Japan; even some Inuit and Aztec inspired cultures are present), dynamic, rounded characters, a hilarious sense of humor (which relies more on writing than the visual slapstick of most anime), phenomenal music, and just general high quality all around. While I’m sure there are some great Japanese anime that exceed Avatar (I personally am a fan of Fullmetal Alchemist/Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood), Avatar easily has a place alongside what are considered “good” anime.

      • James Ciambor

        Daniel, when it comes to Avatar imitating FLCL, I find that a bit harsh. One thing about anime is that many series have correlations. Their talent and I’m reiterating John K is that Anime has an innate ability to have superior color schemes to most mAmerican cartoons but America compensates in personality, narrative, and identifiable characters. Avatar is not the lowest production value in the industry that would go to those flash aniations that are produced dirt cheap in effort to please executives.

        Jason what constitutes greatness is a matter of subjectiveness. I am frustrated that

        Many of the classical animators never really acknowledged anime even though most of them were alive to see it materialize. We may never be privy to what their opinions of this medium were. Personally IMHO Disney may have been livid that Osamu originated anime by selling his own personally made Bambi illustrations on the streets of Japan. Though we only understand this through a historical and retrospective perspective.

        0hG I see that you couldn’t make a rebuttal to me calling you out on your blanket claim that America is trying to improve by emulating anime we already have our own qualities. Let us be us and Japan be Japan we can be inspired sure but to directly take from is what artists seem to be motivated by. We are also ignorant of America’s accomplishments on so many levels at least based on what I’ve watched.

      • James Ciambor

        Daniel I personally believe that your being a bit harsh on Avatar. Many animes have correlations that is one of the genres biggest flaws, despite the fact that they have beautiful color schemes, intricate narratives, and use Dramatic story devices quite frequently. They still suffer from barring a lot of similarities to other properties.

        We could point out how a previously established anime had been imitated by FLCL, this continuous pattern would trace itself back to Disney and Fleischer. Artists pass down from generation to generation their will be correlations sure but they will still possess their own distinctive style.

        Jason, what constitutes greatness is a matter of subjectiveness. Personally America has remained to long on the comedic treadmill but based on Disney and Fleischer’s Superman and Mr.Bug, and Chuck Jones later work we are perfectly capable of incorporating drama and higher culture.

        I am a bit offended by OhG’s comment that we are and should be striving to get better by emulating Japan. Since when is most of the animation community saying that Japan is light years ahead? Without hard evidence but unadulterated subjectiveness. It amazes me how so many of today’s younger crop of animators are coming out of anime listserves and Deviant Art, entering Pixar and Disney without appreciation for classical animation. Ignorance like that is what is problematic in the industry these days, as the years go by we are staying less and less true to are roots and what made us such an institution.

        Japan and America are apples and oranges metaphorically. Though why give up our orange for the apple. Their at the same level of quality but the orange is our culture that we shouldn’t abandon yet so many kids want to throw away this orange and eat the apple

  • http://comicversusreader.com Fahad

    This might sound petty but why did they change the name of the series from ‘Avatar: The Legend of Korra’ (which is what it was referred to as since news of the series first broke) to ‘The Last Airbender: The Legend of Korra’?

    I hope it isn’t to distance themselves from James Cameron’s Avatar or to associate themselves to the live-action movie.

    Frankly I hope they revert the title back to ‘Avatar: The Legend of Korra’ that way it’s in uniform with the last series.

    • cbat628

      Good question. And I definitely agree.

  • Sir

    My guess is it’s the same reason why “Avatar” was left out of the title of the movie. It’s the threat of James Cameron and it’s not their choice. What a shame.

  • http://www.rocarts.com/portfolio Meredith

    Fahad, Not to nerd-out on you, but Korra is a waterbender, whereas the character in the previous series was an airbender. The Last Airbender, to be exact. It has nothing to do with distancing itself from the movie (though I wouldn’t blame them if they did).

  • http://www.rocarts.com/portfolio Meredith

    Sorry, my error. I don’t know why they changed it- possibly a rights dispute.

  • Baron Lego

    It’s nice to see a traditionally-animated series (all well-executed to boot) in this age of Flash-type shows. ^_^

  • JMatte

    I am very much biased about this show (in a good way), and can’t wait to see how the story will develop. It is rare that a North American production has a continuing storyline, which is something the first series did very well. I hope they do it again, instead of having just stand alone episodes (not that it is a bad thing, it’s good to have both, but for Avatar it works so very well).
    I have no doubts the production values are going to be of high standards and it will look good. They have an excellent crew working on it.
    Anime or anime inspired, I don’t even want to jump in that arena. It would be like me bitching about calling a book a “bandes dessinees” instead of a graphic novel.
    We should celebrate instead that such projects are being done. Period.

  • http://www.sexymecha.com Hal

    Not only did that trailer fill my “ancient fantasy-inspired San Francisco” quota for the week but it also filled my Fireball-throwing quota. Can’t say the look is any more or less charming than AVATAR was – most hand-drawn animated series in the states and Japan are shipped to Korean studios for the lion’s share of the inbetweening work (even Madhouse) so its all the same to me.

  • Riff Raff

    Who cares if it’s not “Real Anime”? “Avatar: The Last Airbender” is still an excellent show. Besides, maybe it appeals to some of us who like the artwork and the style of anime, but can’t stand the poorly written, crappy stories of most anime TV shows(at least out of the ones that I’ve personally seen). The only “true anime” TV series that I’ve seen and actually kind of like were “Death Note” and “Cowboy Bebop”. Other than that, anime doesn’t appeal to me at all and I don’t go out of my way to seek it out. What “Avatar” does that caught my attention, is that it combined the striking art style of anime with well told, structured plots and pacing with little to no filler(The Great Divide episode being the exception). Zuko’s story throughout the 3 seasons, transforming from a villain to a hero, is probably one of the best character arcs in an American animated children’s show.

    In my opinion, “Avatar: The last Airbender” is the best show Nickelodeon has made in the past few years and is probably the ONLY good and worthwhile show Nickelodeon has put out in the last decade, bar none.

  • http://www.spiteyourface.com Tony Mines

    Trying (trying) to hold back my fan bias and just view this from a progressive perspective, this is still genuinely the most exciting animation trailer I’ve seen in months.

    What’s so good about Avatar is the team take the *animation* and the production methods from anime and tie it to something else, creating a new language. What everyone – and I mean EVERYONE – else does is steal cultural tidbits and visual cues from the Japanese and tries to wedge them into dreary hands-off outsourced productions with too many tweens and bad staging.

    Avatar isn’t ‘watered down’ anime, its the flagship show in a whole movement of the Koreans seriously catching up with the Japanese on a technical level, and doing so outside of the anime industries genre trappings.

    Arguing that ‘this Japanese kurisuma’ is better than ‘that Korean kurisuma’ misses what’s really going on. The Koreans are catching up as a whole, while the Japanese are reliant on the brilliance of individuals within a decaying system. Its a global game change that is happening, and a genuine new hybrid style emerging.
    But whichever way you look at it, America is asleep through all this, and totally unprepared to create this sort of work in-house. Which is sad.

    The proof is in the pudding. Which is to say, 4oC look to have dropped the ball on Thundercats, compared to this.

  • http://wingingitstudios.deviantart.com/ Alissa

    The first series was an excellent example of what shounen series should strive for. Plot, characters, and fight scenes were great in my (admittedly uneducated) opinion. As long as they stick to the standard set previously or exceed it I’m not gonna complain.

  • http://tigerhawk01.deviantart.com Sam Filstrup

    Oh, it looks good.

  • Jabberwocky

    I am SO excited for this. Avatar: the Last Airbender was an excellent show. I’ve been excited ever since they announced they were doing a sequel and so far I am not disappointed. The show definitely looks more sophisticated and I’m really interested to see where they take the story, since there has been a lot of talk about making it a bit darker than AtLA, and… well, that was a show aimed a 10-year-olds which involved genocide, war crimes, brainwashing, secret police, child abuse, and plenty of other topics not usually included in children’s TV.

    I see there are a lot of haters here, and I also thought the show another sad attempt at ripping off anime when I first watched it, but I quickly realized it was a lot more. If you watch nothing else, I would suggest you watch either of these episode pairs: S1 E12 and 13 “The Storm” and “The Blue Spirit” or the Season 1 finale, “Siege of the North, Parts 1 and 2.” I think you’ll find yourself surprised at the quality.

  • Gray64

    One of the best features, animation-wise, about Avatar, and one that it has all over very nearly any Japanese anime series, is it’s depiction of action. The fight scenes are kinetic, dynamic and beautifully done, not 3 seconds of movement wrapped around 5 minutes of internal dialog, verbal posturing, and characters intricately describing to their opponents why and how they are about to be beaten. There are anime that break this mold (FLCL for instance, which is one of the visual inspirations for Avatar) but sadly, sadly not many.
    I mean, come on. All but the most blindly hardcore anime fan has to realize that devoting whole episodes to fight scenes that are mostly the two participants trash talking each other is not a good way to carry a narrative.
    Don’t be so cliquish and jingoistic, folks. Some of y’alls chief complaint seems to be that Avatar isn’t a Japanese production.

  • Malodac

    Anime hate must end.

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  • jimbob

    i think this show is going to be a huge dissapointment.

    lots of red flags:
    -show is popular and selling well, means more network interference.
    -creators silent during movie adaptation.
    -nick wont continue original show after 3 seasons, doesnt want to pay more for quality work.

    • Tim Douglas

      About your red flags:
      1 – Yes probably
      2 – Do you mean silent about the movie? My guess is that they were told to bite their tongues to not put off fans. Also Shyamalan was making the movie while they were working on season 3…”The Ember Island Players” anyone?
      3 – They wrote the show with a definite ending, there was no more story to tell. If anything its more likely that Nick urged them to make this sequel to one of their most popular shows. Also the budget is almost certainly higher after the great feedback the show (& especially the ending) have received.

      That said, i’m also worried, I’m just wary of sequels in general and losing the original characters is a big loss.
      On the other hand the original show just kept getting better & better towards the end, there’s the definite possibility that this will be even better than the original.

      • Riff Raff

        Right, if you listen to the DVD commentaries, watched the Comic Con panels,or read the art book, you’ll see that the creators had ALWAYS intended for the original show to be only 3 seasons, even back from their very first pitch to Nickelodeon in 2003. They basically wanted a “trilogy” right from the beginning, with a very clear ending of Aang defeating the Firelord. Any threads that were left hanging were intentionally left that way
        (Zuko’s mom). Actually, according to the series finale commentary, there WAS a scene that was storyboarded of Zuko and his mom reuniting, but it was declared that it would feel redundant after the already emotional reunion of Zuko and Uncle Iroh from earlier in the finale. They also didn’t want the Zuko/mom scene to steal the thunder of the Zuko/Iroh scene, of which the latter is MUCH more important to the overall series story. Iroh has been in the show since the very begininng, Zuko’s mom was only in 1 episode(which was a flashback) during the 2nd season.

        Now as for the m. night shyamalan movie, I think the creators pretty much knew it wasn’t gonna be any good, hence why they barely acknowledged or commented on it during the production and after it was released. In fact at the recent Comic Con panel, before it started, the organizers had told the audience to refrain from asking any questions about the live-action film to the creators, so you can pretty much guess that they don’t have good feelings towards it.

    • Jason

      1. Possibly, but at the same time they should trust the show’s creators for getting it to that point of popularity in the first place.
      2. Why would that effect the show…? I’d be more worried if they had come out and said they loved it.
      3. As others have mentioned, it was the creators’ choice to end the story after 3 seasons. If you watched the show, you know it had a definite, satisfying ending. That was the plan. According to the SDCC 2011 panel, Nickelodeon actually approached the original show’s creators and asked them to do something new because there was so much fan demand for it.

  • Ykzv

    Norio Matsumoto? Yeah his nature photos are nice but what does he have to do with animation?

    :P

  • Senor Money

    eh, I still like the fighting in Kung Fu Cooking Girls better.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUDNXlIXy48

  • Katie B

    I would have though the Brew would be excited to get some better quality TV animation in the ring.

    I’m pumped for this to come out. Psyched to see a strong female heroine leading this action series. Excited to see how the world has evolved and grown with technology. Antsy to see the new bending/martial arts moves and effects and how they are broken down.

    Yes! Bring on Korra!

  • Ciandre

    that guy daniel failed to mention that the fight scenes and elemental bending styles were influnced by different forms of kung fu. In fact they had an actual martial arts consultant, sifu kisu, who basically choreographed every major fight scene with co-creator, Bryan Konietzko. The fighting styles come from Ba Gua, Hung Gar, Northern Shaolin, Tai Chi, Southern Praying Mantis, Yoga etc. Capoiera is even incorporated in one episode. Kihyun Ryu might take some influences from Matsumoto and FlCl, but the majority of it is directly inspired by kung fu. This is true for all thre of the korean animation companies that produced avatar.

  • anthony

    more korra stuff
    http://sot.ag/NDA3NjY1

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